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[–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No, the control group was given a non-malaria vaccine for comparison. There were two other versions of the vaccine they tested. Three groups total.

Also, why re-cite the same source I took issue with in your middle paragraph? Shill tactics!! Conspiracy!!

Edit: the control was given a rabies vaccine

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't see where you're finding that the control group had no vaccines.

The trial included two age categories: children 6 to 12 weeks of age and those 5 to 17 months of age at enrollment. The trial included three study groups in each age category: children who received all three doses of the RTS,S/AS01 vaccine administered at 1-month intervals and who were scheduled to receive a booster dose 18 months after the third dose, children who received the RTS,S/AS01 primary vaccination series without a booster, and a control group who received a non-malaria comparator vaccine.

Comparator vaccines (used) were rabies vaccine (VeroRab, Sanofi-Pasteur) for children 5 to 17 months of age at enrollment and meningococcal serogroup C conjugate vaccine (Menjugate, Novartis) for children 6 to 12 weeks of age at enrollment. All vaccines were administered intramuscularly.

All the children in the study received vaccines like the human guinea pigs they were being treated as. Like I said before, why is it that everyone that tells us this is safe seem to have an invested interest in making money off of it?

Conflicts Of Interest listed here...in part 7 called "Conflicts Of Interest": https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa1102287/suppl_file/nejmoa1102287_appendix.pdf

We all know Pharma always puts people before profits...right? Just a partial list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements

[–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. Yes, I made a mistake in my last comment. The control group was given an established vaccine for rabies so they wouldn't know they were in the control group. An even better approach than what I originally thought.

It sounds like you generally don't trust the safety of vaccines. Is that true? Are there any vaccines other than rabies you would consider safe for use as a comparator?

Thanks for structuring your argument with a thesis, supporting evidence, and a conclusion. Even though I don't agree with your conclusion, you have my upvote because you framed your comment in a way that moves the debate forward.