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NATO mulls Ukraine options.
submitted 15 days ago by Dune1032 from msn.com
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[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 14 days ago (12 children)
'Momentum appears to be growing for an expanded NATO presence in Ukraine ...'
What could possibly go wrong?
It's the Ukrainians, Russians, and, more generally, the Europeans, who'll pay the price of a nuclear escalation.
Those that instigate this, do so from far away safety, already chuffed to bits that the Ukrainians and Russians, who're essentially brothers, are killing each other.
[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 14 days ago (11 children)
The US is a member of NATO. It would be drawn into the conflict. In my plan, NATO in its entirety would not get involved but only some members such as France and Britain. This would decrease the chance of Russia using nuclear weapons because Putin cannot claim he is being ganged up on.
[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 14 days ago (10 children)
In your plan?
[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 14 days ago (9 children)
Yes. I'm not aware of anyone else proposing such a plan.
[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 14 days ago (7 children)
That may be because it's a basic NATO tenet that if one member is engaged, then all members are engaged.
[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 13 days ago (6 children)
Incorrect. A country can do something on its own.
[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 13 days ago (4 children)
The main reason that Article 15 has not been triggered every time a NATO member (typically the USA) does something on its own (attacks someone), is that it typically attacks weak countries that cannot hit back.
Here, however, if/when a NATO member (France or Britain as you suggest) does something on its own (attacks Russia), there may be a response/escalation.
This would then trigger Article 15, ... i.e. WWIII.
[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 13 days ago (3 children)
Britain and France would not attack Russia. Their navies would keep the Russian navy from blocking Ukraine's exports from the Black Sea. Their air forces would provide air cover for Ukraine. Their armies would be the reserve, freeing Ukrainian troops to go to the front and blocking any Russian breakthroughs.
[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 13 days ago (2 children)
Why?
[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 13 days ago (1 child)
The purpose is to prevent Putin from find an excuse to use nuclear weapons.
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