Ukrainian tankers praise M1 Abrams.

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[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Right, and that's 'news', not pro-war propaganda drivel, not at all. :/

In the meantime:

America's Abrams Tanks Are Failing the Ukraine Test

The U.S. is withdrawing its Abrams main tanks from Ukrainian battlefields after the platforms proved unable to deal with the threat of Russian drones, according to two unnamed U.S. military officials who spoke with the Associated Press.

Five of the 31 American Abrams sent to Ukraine since January 2023 have already been lost to Russian action, the AP said. Their delivery came after months of intense lobbying on Kyiv's part, but the armored platforms—along with others supplied by NATO allies—failed to make the decisive battlefield impact that Ukraine had hoped for.

The Abrams—the unit cost of which is around $10 million each—have fallen victim to the mass use of drones over Ukrainian battlefields, ...

https://www.newsweek.com/american-abrams-tanks-failing-ukraine-test-russia-drones-1894503

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Didn't you read my link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6VWyElstfc&t=19s Abrams have not been withdrawn. Instead, Ukrainians have changed tactics to accommodate a sky filled with drones.

[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Riiight.

And this kind of PR is not there just to try and damage-control such 'America's Abrams Tanks Are Failing the Ukraine Test' news reports, naaah.

Incidentally, shills are scum, don't you agree?

[–]Dune1032[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

No tanks can survive in the open when the sky if full of drones.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The only way to know would be to have satellite surveillance with footage of the past year of every M1. Everything else is propaganda.

At least one M1 was captured by the Russians, so at least it's not some invincible wonder weapon. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68934205

It is plausible that the M1 isn't a match for drones, because it wasn't designed for such a battle field.

The frontline moving is hard to fake for long periods of time; at some point journalists will report that it is dangerous in some place they could previously get near to and especially when doing that in concert with satellite footage. I am not sure what agreements there are regarding sharing operationally sensitive areas, but anything falling outside of such squares would also shift.

[–]Dune1032[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No tank is a match for kamikaze drones. The reason is that the top of a tank is thinly armored. A battlefield full of drones is something new. Armies will have to adjust their tactics to accommodate this. They will probably have to have weapons that clear the drones while the tanks advance.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I am not sure why you would respond when you agree. I said it was plausible.

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You appeared to imply that the M1 is an inferior tank because it can't survive a drone attack. My point is that no tank can survive such an attack because tanks weren't designed that way.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I did not imply that. You should brush up your logic skills.

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It is plausible that the M1 isn't a match for drones, because it wasn't designed for such a battle field.

Above is what you said. This implies that other tanks are a match for drone. If no tanks are designed to survive in the open with the sky filled with drones, why would say something like that?