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[–]Callmesavior 21 insightful - 8 fun21 insightful - 7 fun22 insightful - 8 fun -  (33 children)

Firstlt,there was no holocaust. It is all jews' propaganda.

[–][deleted] 18 insightful - 5 fun18 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

This is of course true. Still that the Mils and Z believe they brought it on themselves speaks to the fact that they aren't taking the official narrative and just running with it. This is highly encouraging.

[–]bjam27 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

Ignorant Nazi

[–]HibikiBlack 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

I myself don't believe in the zero kill idea, but there is a lot of evidence supporting the idea that the National Socialists didn't had a proper genocide plan, but rather, what they meant by the "extermination" of Jews referred to completely eliminating the influence that they had on German society. There was a controversy back then about how much did the genocide stories were propaganda or real.

The Haavara Agreement, the plan from the National Socialists and Zionist Jews to send the Jews to Palestine.

The International Red Cross report of 1948 found no indication of an extermination plan, despite the claim that it supposedly said the Germans cunningly hided that some facilities were gas chambers.

Testimonies from "Holocaust survivors" that tell the truth about the conditions of the camps. The Jews had access to swimming pools for exercise, theathers, whore houses and participated in soccer games.

The Holocaust and the 6 million figure showing up in different places before WWII.

Now, like I said, regardless of all of these arguments, the Germans back then were being openly racist against them so I doubt the zero kill thing is even plausible. The real controversy lies in the fact that the Holocaust authorities never properly gave the Germans the benefit of the doubt when it comes to investigating the supposed murders. The difference between a 100, 200, 300 total number of kills vs the 6 million figure is that while they are both atrocities, the Jews wouldn't be able to gain income the same way they currently do with a more honest figure. There are a lot of crimes in history that are a lot worse and supposing an estimate like that or lower were to come out, it wouldn't be fair for the Germans to constantly pay for the crimes very few of them were involved in, several years ago too.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

There are a lot of crimes in history that are a lot worse

Funny how that context always gets lost. Even accepting the official numbers, many other atrocities on the same or larger scale have been documented, but somehow this is the worst event ever in history. I'm not defending any form of genocide here, I'm simply pointing out that Jews are far from being the only victims.

[–]Jesus 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

He won't reply back, look at his past comments.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Well stated.

[–]HibikiBlack 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Also, what I stated above is exactly what unorthodox revisionists or denialists should focus on, instead of falling for the usual radical denialist or believer memes being pushed on. What decides who is right or wrong in the end will be the forensic evidence, if someone in Germany actually reaches power and becomes commited in finding the real historical truth.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

ZioCon and pro-Likudnik.

[–]lawuigi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is that for treating Coronavirus or high blood pressure?

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

So I guess this is saying that 20% of these young folks think it did happen and 6 million died, but it was deserved and justified because of what the jews had done, bankers screwing over germany's economy for example.

This was a survey about what young people in NY know about the holocaust. Most young people in NY can't read or do simple math let alone know world history. Why should they know about what occurred in poland and was done by germany. The title is fake and they didn't ask them about who did the holocaust just asked if they knew what places like auschwitz were. Do a survey of young people living in germany.

[–]Jesus 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It is such a psyop. The holocaust deniers do not deny Jewish persecution. They deny the means and ways of execution as well as the amount and the causes.

If I had to suspect it, Zionists, like the Zionist Jews that led the American Nazi party in the 20th century, are behind this.

There are many alt-right Jews saying how Hitler was right to exterminate Jews. They have to keep the holocaustianity religion going; it is the Zionist religion. It doesn't have to be either but they use it to push their ethnocracy.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I bet you also think the Earth is flat.

[–]lawuigi 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Nazis didn't think the Earth was flat! They believed the Earth was hollow. Seriously check out the link. It's worth a read and a laugh.

[–]Jesus 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Strawman

[–]lawuigi 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

You got me, Bro! Obviously the scientist acquired by operation Paperclip that were put into NASA knew better.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Irrelevant and flawed logic, and unfunny joke.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Next you're gonna say there are no lizard people in hollow earth. 🧐

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Fallacy

[–]shariajustice 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

i suspect that gays caused hiv.

[–]SaidOverRed 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

You misspelled spread.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not relevant.

[–]shariajustice 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

i suspect that gays caused hiv and elton john invented the piano.

[–]duckduckgo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the easter bunny invented easter eggs.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah Hitler actually never even existed. He was just a made up villain that the Jewish-controlled Hollywood fabricated from a few dozen fake "documentary" videos and started brainwashing the public during the 50s and 60s.

[–]Jesus 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

strawman used by both Callmesavior and FediNetizen.

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You forgot the /s

[–]PencilPusher55 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

This is as bad as saying no plane hit the WTC.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Actually, he's MUCH closer to the truth than the official narrative.

I wouldn't go so far as to say "there was no holocaust" as it's commonly defined, but I would say that it's certainly mostly exaggerations and myth.

[–]PencilPusher55 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I don't think that 9/11 was what the media says. I believe it was planned. But anyone who takes it a step too far and says "There were no planes" despite everyone seeing them, it makes you seem crazy.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

That's because the orchestrators also have infiltrators to make everyone who questions seem crazy and outlandish, while the cover stories and Anthrax silence dissenters.

The Holocaust is not different in that there are outrageous claims easily debunked, distracting from the ugly truths.

[–]PencilPusher55 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Out of my own curiosity, can you link me to any plausible holocaust theories? I wouldn't even know where to look.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

IMO, more important than the theories, from grand sweeping theories to minute details, I think contextual understanding is much more important. With that foundation you can better judge how the puzzle pieces may or may not fit together for you.

I believe there are many good links within this post's comments, from me and others, accompanied by diverse views and contexts. They can set the stage for the many of conflicting view points.

If you want to skip to some of the key irrefutable points, there's this list:
https://InfoGalactic.com/info/Truther_Top_20_Counter_Points_To_The_Official_Holocaust_Story

The Spinning Squirrel documentary starts slow but gets much better. The other two are also well worth listening to:
/s/WorldNews/comments/6fp7/survey_finds_nearly_20_of_millennials_and_gen_z/ozdk

After the war is also critical for understanding how unfair the whole thing is and to realize how utterly corrupt the official narrative is. The Germans actually suffered more after the war.
/s/WorldNews/comments/6fp7/survey_finds_nearly_20_of_millennials_and_gen_z/oyz8

[–]PencilPusher55 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for the response. I have read the first link and will go on to the others.

One thing that this really set off in my mind that is quite infuriating is that - Let's say everything you posted was wrong. Let us say that none of that was true, completely and factually false and everything stated in the popular world history narrative actually did happen... Well why can't we question it?

Much like covid, even the sheer gall to say "Well, the CDC has shown that the deaths are not nearly as severe...." - Conversation over. Go on and use whatever demonizing name to shut you down. "Wow... you're an anti-masker?". "Conspiracy theorist".

This is wildly off topic but it reminds me so much of Ferrari. I remember hearing that they HATE when people publish lap times of their cars. They refuse to do this without them being present. But why? If the car was as capable as you said it was, why be so defensive? If it really is the fastest - let us rip it on the track and prove it to everyone... unless of course, it's not.

They don't even allow you to question anything. Thought crimes. WRONG THINK. Perhaps this is why our society has fallen so far. Push the narrative, teach the NPCs to memorize and regurgitate it, attack those who question.

I'm fine with being an idiot, I'm fine with being wrong - but please prove to me I'm off the mark. Let there be a conversation.