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[–]ageingrockstar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

To Jimmy's first point, calling it autopilot is absolutely fine. Autopilot has been used for a long time on airplanes and boats. Pilots and captains of boats still monitor the craft they are piloting when they switch on autopilot. Autopilot auto pilots the vehicle; that doesn't mean that the person who is in control of the craft can stop monitoring it and go to sleep. No-one has any problem with calling it auto-pilot in airplanes so it's unfair to call out using that name for the same technology in cars.

What Tesla should be called out for is selling 'Full Self Driving' for quite a number of years now, when they still haven't delivered on the promise in the name. Teslas can 'self-drive' but full self-driving does imply that no human is necessary for monitoring or to even be in the car. That's still not possible.

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

To Kurt's point, the whole thing is bullshit.

The drivers who are fucking around while letting the car "drive" are the morons at fault.

There's a reason why you need to have both training and a license, and playing on words isn't going to fix human stupidity and entitlement.

What they're saying here with this "recall" is that people's actions and behavior aren't being sufficiently monitored and controlled by automated systems, with the usual argument of "it's for their own protection".

Where have we heard this before?

[–]ageingrockstar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What they're saying here with this "recall" is that people's actions and behavior aren't being sufficiently monitored and controlled by automated systems, with the usual argument of "it's for their own protection".

You make an excellent point. Tesla cars all now come with an internal camera focused on the driver. I'm not sure how far it's been implemented so far, but the intention of that camera is to continually monitor the driver while they are using auto-pilot to make sure they are paying attention to the road, to what the car is doing, etc. There's various technologies that can track attention from video input of a human face, mostly on where the eyes are focused and how they are scanning etc. That would work much better than monitoring pressure on the wheel but it's a massive trade-off in privacy that I personally would be very reluctant to make without cast-iron guarantees on non-storage of the video, non-transmission and protection from subpoena, etc. (Satisfactorily strong guarantees and protections I think we are unlikely to get.) But I also do think that video monitoring of drivers is where things are heading. I can see the alternative argument too - that driving on public roads is not actually a right, it's a privilege (I agree on this principle) and so if having cars with auto-pliot and monitoring of the driver properly monitoring the autopilot leads to safer driving (I think it does already and will continue to improve into the future) then that is where we will go and the 'right' to drive a car completely manually and with nothing to monitor your attention in the car except passing police cars will increasingly be limited and eventually removed. Actually, in Australia we already have external cameras set up over roads which issue fines against ppl using their phones while driving, etc.