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[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

He also points out that now there are conservatives demanding the ban of pro-Palestinian protest groups.

Because idiots never learn; what is done to your enemy will eventually be done to you.

I'm always reminded of a possibly apocryphal anecdote from Dick Gregory about being confronted in a diner by some KKK types, who said that whatever he did to the chicken that had been set down in front of him they would do to him - so he picked up the chicken and kissed it.

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

conservatives demanding the ban of pro-Palestinian protest groups.

Here's one opposing it:

Vivek Ramaswamy

Free speech doesn’t just protect the ideas we love. It protects the ideas we hate. The idiotic college “pro-Palestine” student groups are dead wrong to excuse genocidal attacks against Jews and spout disgusting anti-semitism, but one of the things that makes us different from Islamic terrorists is we don’t silence dissent. It’s a shameful political ploy for @RonDeSantis to ban the existence of pro-Palestinian student groups at Florida universities. It’s unconstitutional. It’s utter hypocrisy for someone who railed against left-wing cancel culture. Conservatives should be allowed to criticize BLM or vaccine mandates, and crazy liberals should be able to criticize Israel or the West even if they’re dead wrong about it. I’m well aware this isn’t a politically popular position right now, but if the government can censor who can speak vs not, the rest of it really doesn’t matter: we’re no different than those we pretend to fight.

(video at link)

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's so depressing to me that this has to be repeated over and over and over again, and there's still wide swaths of the population that don't get it.

[–]risistill me 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

there's still wide swaths of the population that don't get it.

There always have been and probably always will be. Not necessarily that specific info, but info in general.

Institutions, like the DNC and RNC, are far better at gathering, maintaining and passing along information. We humans seem to need to invent the same wheels, generation after generation. At that, even among elders of each generation, many remain duped and in denial.

Like the rest of Oz, after only Toto, Dorothy, the Scarecrow, the Tin Man and the Lion got to see the real "Wizard" in Oz's capital, Emerald City.

Books going the way of dinos and the 24 hour "news" cycle aren't helping.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, sound bites have been a thing for a while and it's been decades since they started saying they had to dumb down newspapers to a low enough reading level. Frankly, I think that was just their typical condescension, they always assume we're dumber than we are. We ARE dumb, just not in the way they think.

I remember Carl Sagan challenging the claim that the reason science didn't get more coverage and discussion in the media was because it was too complicated for most people; he pointed out that newspapers posted daily baseball stats and if people could understand those, they could understand science news. And would probably enjoy it more than much of the stuff they publish.

[–]risistill me 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Smart man!

[–]3andfro 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Gotta love that story, apocryphal or not.

This story illuminates just how far into the muck government has sunk and that justice is neither blind nor balanced. The stench of hypocrisy from Biden and his ilk, who continue to posit the US as a beacon of light and democracy and are themselves corrupt to the gills, is overwhelming.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The sad fact is that justice has never been blind or balanced for many in our society, most of us just didn't pay attention until it started hitting closer to home. I wish humanity wasn't so fundamentally selfish and self-absorbed, and I speak as someone who is equally guilty.

[–]risistill me 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Please don't be so hard on yourself. Most of our younger lives are consumed with what passes for education in the US. Then, we spend most of the week earning a living so we don't starve or freeze to death or die from lack of medical care. Then elders struggle to stay alive. That's survival instinct, not self-absorption.

Even as to the most empathic, altruistic and aware among us--how the fuck do they change public priorities without outspending all "donors?"

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know if "guilty" is the right word. There are always limiting factors like availability of information, intellectual and emotional capacity, and simply the amount of time in the day. No one can be expected to know and care about all the injustices in the country, let alone the world, let alone try to do something about them, let alone succeed. People have jobs and families; this is why we have representatives, so they can support and defend the Constitution. Just because they're feckless and corrupt doesn't mean we have to shoulder their responsibilities.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are limiting factors, certainly, and that's as true today as it ever was though arguably it's a lot easier to find information nowadays if you're willing to look for it. I just wish I had pegged to the propaganda much earlier in my life, at the very least when I hit voting age and assumed I was being told the truth about political candidates that it turns out were simply a threat to the status quo.

[–]3andfro 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Most of us are selfish and self-absorbed to some extent but able to step outside both behaviors for those we know and care about. Children starving in Biafra, children being blown up anywhere--even with daily bombardment of images, it's hard to sustain attention because it's outside the immediacy of our daily lives and personally known tribes.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And don't you think the bombardment is deliberate, intended to overwhelm us to the point of triggering a feeling of helplessness to do anything about these colossal, far off tragedies?

[–]3andfro 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I sure do.