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[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Those are some excellent links. A nice succinct summary from the second one:

So if we connect the dots, we go from December 2021 where Russia said that Ukraine must never be a member of NATO to where the collective western alliance said pound sand, Russia, Ukraine will do as it pleases and the door is always open. Then to February 2022 where Zelensky – thinking America had his back – started a military push to take back the Donbas, inspiring recognition of the DPR/LPR as independent entities and a subsequent Russian military response to their request for urgent assistance to prevent their being overrun. To ‘peace talks’ in Istanbul in March 2022, where Boris Johnson and Antony Blinken talked Zelensky out of an agreement based on their appraisal that Russia – having ‘failed to capture Kiev’ – was just blowing smoke and hoping to steamroll Ukraine into a precipitate signature…to now, where (1) Ukraine has lost almost a third of its previous acreage, and (2) the United States never intended that it should win, because believe me, if America was really trying, Ukraine would have kicked their ass ’til it rang like a bell.

[–]BerryBoy1969It's not red vs. blue - It's capital vs. you[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

YCMTSU... but they do it as easily as sucking their next breath of air, and millions of people still believe them.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You have to admit that some of them are at least more creative than others. Like using all the tropes about Russia as a rationale for not pursuing the destroy-Russia path they've been bent on for decades to justify abandoning the Ukraine Project. It takes a special kind of sociopath to make that argument after the West pushed Kiev to sacrifice some 400k plus Ukrainian lives.

[–]BerryBoy1969It's not red vs. blue - It's capital vs. you[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No doubt.

What I find heartening about the situation IRL, as opposed to the machinations of TPTB on social media, is that a large percentage of the people I casually discuss geopolitics with, understand that what they read from our owners approved narrative experts, don't jive with what they see happening in real time on the channels that circumvent the protections put in place to protect us from the inconvenient truths that might undermine our full faith and trust in Government Inc.

One of the benefits of being a citizen of the great melting pot that is the USA, is that it has a wealth of different cultures that use social media to keep up with the news in the countries they have families in. That news rarely coincides with what the AP and Reuters fills the information spaces with, and I'm sure our alphabet agencies have no idea how to stanch the flow of unapproved narratives entering their information battlespace, without criminalizing wrongthink and declaring martial law in the greatest demockracy the world has ever known.

Some of the sheep are fleeing their pens all over the world. The U.S. sheep still seem a little slow on the uptake. We've been trained well.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

By all accounts, Americans aren't quite as badly propagandized as the people in Europe. It may have to do with their blocking access to some sites and though there's some of that in the US I don't think as much, yet. I expect for it to get worse because it never gets better and there's even less reason now to let it get better than there was before Covid and Biden.