Sounds goodTrump's unprecedented campaign pitch: Elect me to get revenge on the government

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[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

I'm kinda surprised Mr. Drain-the-Swamp still has such a fan base. His people/appointees were awful.

  • Bolton - PNAC war hawk/criminal

  • Education: Betsy Devos - Public Schools Inc.

  • FCC: Ajit Pai - Verizon plant killing net neutrality

  • FDA: Gottlieb - Pfizer plant killing people

  • HHS: Azar - yet another pharma plant

  • AG: Barr - surveillance state cog

  • EPA: Wheeler - coal lobbyist? really?

  • etc. etc.

Clearly on the side of big business. Hell, he still claims credit for the "vaccines". Only good thing I can recall is that he didn't bomb quite as many people as the other Oval Office fuckups of the last few decades.

Why is he still relevant to regular people on the right? It's like TDS in reverse.

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

All true.

 

Now name someone better.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Out of anybody? RFK Jr., Cornel West

Out of anybody from the right side of the uniparty? Ron Paul I guess?

That's running in the Republican primary? I dunno. I'm not informed enough about any of the candidates. Any suggestions?

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Let me back this up with some facts and figures.

Jeb dropped out on 02/20/16. Hillary lost on 11/08/16. In less than 9 months Trump crushed two of the most powerful families in American politics. He destroyed one dynasty and prevented another from taking hold.

Everyone in every party owes him a debt of gratitude for that, whether they admit it or not.

Jeb had $100 million in the bank. Newspapers were calling it "shock and awe," as in Desert Storm. He was as inevitable as Hillary. Trump said "low energy" and snapped his fingers. Poof, gone. He made it look easy.

Hillary outspent Trump 2 to 1.

Ron DeSantis has $150 million. Trump's laughing. He doesn't care. DeSantis went down to 13 cents in the prediction markets tonight, less than a third of his highs from a year ago.

Say anything you like about Trump's failures in office, I'll likely agree, and I'll add a dozen more examples to your list. But the man has a talent for destruction, and I want to see it put to use.

I don't want someone fiddling around the edges. I don't want someone to shuffle the deck chairs. I don't even want someone to "enact structural reform."

I want a bloodbath. I want mushroom clouds. I want earthquakes, fire and brimstone, sulfurous hail, thunder winged with red lightning and impetuous rage. I want a fucking apocalypse to rain down on the heads of the godless motherfuckers who seized control of my government and twisted it and mangled it and turned it into an enemy of the people.

The only candidates offering me anything close to that are Trump, RFK Jr, and Vivek Ramaswamy. Trump is the one with the best chance to win.

And that's why he still has a base.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (10 children)

Jeb had $100 million in the bank.

JEB! destroyed himself by being a really boring candidate. Who remembers "Please clap"? Voters like dull governors, but presidents should inspire more than yawns. Trump is "an ass, and a fool, and a prating coxcomb" but at least he's not boring.

H/T Captain Fluellen in Henry V

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

To put it bluntly, Trump was Nixon while Jeb was Carter.

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I never thought I'd say this, but I think you guys are underselling Jeb.

(Boy, that really feels weird to type)

It wasn't just that goofball by himself. He was heavily backed by most of the institutional organs of the GOP, save for a much smaller share who went for Rubio. He had two former presidents and two former First Ladies as his surrogates, and it may be easy to forget, but Bush43 did have charisma. He could carry a room, unlike Jeb. Back then a lot of Republicans still thought fondly of him, and Trump called him a liar live on stage.

Everyone thought that would finish Trump in heavily-military SC, but instead it finished Jeb. That was a hugely risky move no one saw paying off even hours after Trump made it.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Jeb was an indication that it was no status quo year.

He was Hillary in the Republican camp.

Same with Mitt before that and he lost to Obama.

For the left, everyone was for Bernie Sanders that year. And he would have beat Trump.

The minute that Trump hit him on the Iraq War and his brother was the minute he lost.

A lot of libertarians resonated with that attack and they weren't voting Bush again ever.

So out of the two Anti-establishment candidates, Trump won and he went on to make Hillary lose top him, the game show host.

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Mostly agreed, but it wasn't something about the year itself that was the issue. It was the successive nominations of McCain and Romney, who practically personified the two things the GOP base was growing to most passionately hate about their supposed representatives - maniacal warmongering and soulless globalist corporatism.

That was what Trump was able to tap into.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All that's connected.

They ran Mitt and Newt's vulture capitalism angle really hit him hard and that was Obama capitalizing on that while doing the same things as him including Healthcare (Mitt was governor in Massachusetts where he implemented Romneycare). For McCain, he might have come off as a maverick, but what people actually wanted before him and Romney was Ron Paul who was bullied out by Romney's money and McCain just couldn't be with his war record.

On the left, most of the people wanted Bernie Sanders and the primaries were rigged against him. But there was so much hatred for Hill-dawg, most of those people voted for Trump.

The Democratic Party elected Trump with their anger at the people that voted him in to say "Screw you bastards"

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Nixon was a liar, a cheat, and a crook, but not "an ass, a fool and a prating coxcomb" :-)

JMO/YMMV

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Policy wise and position wise, he's the closest to Nixon.

He even had to deal with the Nixon administration on policy.

And all that applies to Trump.

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Who remembers "Please clap"?

Everyone who watches Keaton and Russell 😄

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Buster Keaton and Mark Russell?

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The Due Dissidence guys. All their videos end with that clip :)

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

And that's why he still has a base.

And all that may be why there is now emerging a "How to Stop Trump" faction emerging on the Republican side, much like the "How To Stop Bernie" one in the Democratic Party in 2019.

The Remaining Koch Brother is now funding a series of "If Trump is the GOP Nominee, we could lose everything" hair-on-fire mailers.

It's time to look to a new leader. It's too important to RISK it all!

(Without saying who that "new leader" is supposed to be.)

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sure. But if Trump can't beat a Koch brother, he certainly can't beat the forces that will be arrayed against him in the general.

We'll just know sooner rather than later.

 

"And so we stay?"

"So we stay," Pellaeon agreed. "At least awhile."

"Yes, sir." Ardiff pursed his lips. "You realize, of course, that our unknown opponent may not give up this easily. He may attack again."

Pellaeon turned again to look out at the fiery debris.

"Let him try."

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, RFK Jr is possibly the one person in the country who has more motivation than Trump to take a wrecking ball to the US government.

There's no one else on the GOP side. Vivek Ramaswamy comes closest but he's completely unproven.

I voted for Trump in 2016 because he promised to destroy the GOP. For all his other failures, he did that. Or at the very least, he started the process, and it's well on its way, and it doesn't look like anyone will be able to reverse it.

Now he's promising to destroy the deep state, and if that's all he does, he'll be second only to General Washington.