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[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

and for no other reason

Yeah because the reckless and pointless expansion of NATO isn't a thing.

We've been the aggressor against Russia for 30 years, but that isn't a thing either.

We looted the former Soviet Union the instant it collapsed, allowing and even encouraging apparatchiks and crimelords to flee the country and transfer their bank accounts to the West, letting services, industry, and employment collapse in their wake, causing widespread alcoholism, drug addiction, and skyrocketing abortion, but these are not things.

The bipartisan use of Ukraine as a money-laundering service for the American political elite and their useless spawn, the vicious genocidal war waged by Kiev against the people of the Donbas, the idiot CIA's Maidan coup, none of these are things.

US-funded biolabs on Russia's border are another non-thing.

The Democrats' insane Russiagate hoax, rejecting Putin's overtures and throwing them back in his face for decades, our use of Nazi catspaws against his country, NOT THINGS.

Canceling an election while "fighting for democracy," however, this is definitely a thing. A necessary thing. Just like jailing priests, and banning opposition parties and confiscating their assets.

How are you even real?

[–]bootylicious 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah because the reckless and pointless expansion of NATO isn't a thing.

NATO has been a necessary response to Russian aggression and the nuclear threat, OBVIOUSLY. WTF.

We've been the aggressor against Russia for 30 years, but that isn't a thing either.

While Russia did NOTHING as aggressors to other countries? How fucking delusional is that?

We looted the former Soviet Union the instant it collapsed, allowing and even encouraging apparatchiks and crimelords to flee the country and transfer their bank accounts to the West, letting services, industry, and employment collapse in their wake, causing widespread alcoholism, drug addiction, and skyrocketing abortion, but these are not things.

False - there was NOTINNG to loot.

The bipartisan use of Ukraine as a money-laundering service for the American political elite and their useless spawn, the vicious genocidal war waged by Kiev against the people of the Donbas, the idiot CIA's Maidan coup, none of these are things.

Corruption in Ukraine is a very complex topic, related especially to pre-2014 Russian corruption in Ukraine. It's a problem that takes a long time to address. And the CIA claims are absollute nonsense. And money laundering happens in many countries.

US-funded biolabs on Russia's border are another non-thing.

More disinformation from Russia, obviously. All countries have labs. All of these labs are relatively harmless. Really stupid to assume that you know what's happening in a lab, unless you have direct evidence.

The Democrats' insane Russiagate hoax, rejecting Putin's overtures and throwing them back in his face for decades, our use of Nazi catspaws against his country, NOT THINGS.

Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections has been proven many times. WTF.

Canceling an election while "fighting for democracy," however, this is definitely a thing. A necessary thing. Just like jailing priests, and banning opposition parties and confiscating their assets.

Doesn't make any sense.

How are you even real?

How do you support millions of innocent Ukrainians are being bombed, displaced, raped, tortured, and murdered by Putin's war criminals, only because the criminals want to do it, and for no other reason? You'd rather believe the obvious lies you mention here than see what Putin's war criminals are doing? WTF is wrong with you?

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

More disinformation from Russia, obviously. All countries have labs. All of these labs are relatively harmless. Really stupid to assume that you know what's happening in a lab, unless you have direct evidence.

I hate piling on, but I was traveling yesterday and didn't have the time to look up the links.

Here is the admission that the Ukrainian labs are very far from harmless, and at a minimum contain hazardous material that can be used as a biological weapon (warning, NSFW - Nuland Slagbeast Found Within)

Here is the Pentagon's admission that we funded at least 46 of those facilities for 20 years:

The United States has also worked collaboratively to improve Ukraine’s biological safety, security, and disease surveillance for both human and animal health, providing support to 46 peaceful Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and disease diagnostic sites over the last two decades.

Please remember the legal principle of declarations against interest and the concept of limited hangouts whenever you assess evidence.

I'll leave it at that, since Inuma has thoroughly addressed all the other points.

[–]bootylicious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you, but this:

Here is the admission that the Ukrainian labs are very far from harmless, and at a minimum contain hazardous material that can be used as a biological weapon

Is false.

So do bio labs exist inside Ukraine, and is the US supporting them?

Yes, and yes. Ukraine does operate biological laboratories that receive US funding. The US undersecretary of state Victoria Nuland affirmed those facts in a Senate foreign relations committee hearing this week, in which the Republican senator Marco Rubio asked directly if Ukraine had biological weapons.

Nuland did not answer the question head on. “Ukraine has biological research facilities,” she said, adding that there was concern that Russian forces were trying to gain control of the labs. “We are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces.”

Nuland’s comments were seized upon by far-right commentators as evidence of a secret plot. In fact, US funding to the laboratories had its roots in the fall of the Soviet Union, after which money was pumped into Ukraine and other countries to help them transfer scientific skills away from weapons towards public health.

The scheme was originally known as Cooperative Threat Reduction (CTR) but is now more commonly referred to as biological engagement. It has been successful in helping former Soviet and other countries fulfill public health obligations.

“This is one of the best things that we do,” Dr Gigi Gronvall, senior scholar at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, told the Guardian.

Most of the work of the Ukraine labs today, Gronvall said, involves surveillance of diseases in animals and people as an early-warning system for illnesses such as African swine fever, which is endemic in the region.

“We know pathogens don’t respect borders, so helping to put out public health fires before they become too big is an advantage to all of us,” she said. Do the Ukraine laboratories store dangerous biological agents?

As part of their work the labs do seem to hold dangerous pathogens. We know that because WHO is urging Ukraine to destroy any highly dangerous agents to avoid the risk of a disastrous outbreak should one of the labs be hit by Russian forces.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/11/russia-biological-weapon-claim-us-un-ukraine-bio-labs-explainer

This is an ADDITIONAL reason Russian should not invade Ukraine, or continue bombing civilian buildings.