US halts export of most civilian firearms and ammunition for 90 days

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[–]noshore4me 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"Export licenses for Ukraine and Israel, as well as some other close allies, will be exempted from the temporary halt in exports."

[–]hfxB0oyA[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Curious, that.

[–]AutisumCreature 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Please No more war

[–]topiary2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Wrong. Anyone worth their salt always advocates pro peace, not antiwar. The power of words are a thing. And they determine your focus.

[–]hfxB0oyA[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm interested in your definition of the difference between the two statements.

[–]HiddenFox 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My take on it is pro peace means peace but sometimes you have to get your hands dirty. Some battles and wars can't be avoided. Antiwar is no war at all cost. To me that's not practical in this world. Some people can't be talked down. They only understand the stick.

My father had a saying when it came to discipline with me as a child. "First I will ask, then I will tell, then I make."

[–]hfxB0oyA[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A reasonable stance.

[–]SoCo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This makes absolutely no sense and comes with no logical justification. Most civilian ammo is usable for military use, although they'd likely rather have more specialized ammo. Foreign law enforcement agencies are likely the hardest hit by this.

This provoking of war and the rapid inhumane slaughtering, which several nations did of their long time rivals during the opportunity of weakened global rational thinking and resolve, was entirely expected by anyone with a mild grasp of history. Wars are used by desperate countries to drag themselves from economic failure as we see repeatedly.

Biden has tried relentlessly to start 3 WordWar3's at once, while we are desperately low on ammo as a nation, not to mention being desperately low on our strategic oil reserves, which are meant to give us security in the event of a war, not lower your gas prices. It was clear Biden would go this route after inheriting the results of his political parties' economic irresponsibility, their attempt to buy the election with pandemic reckless handouts, during a time of global crises caused economic crash, with peak debt of fully maxed national credit cards, and Biden's own contribution with his massive economic failures. Since his first couple months in office, when Biden threatening preemptive nuclear attack in response to the US being hacked, we saw the drum beats or war coming.

War is also a great way for a really really bad politician to have a chance for a second term. People dying often, gives a politician lots of opportunities to woo the public with political acts of virtue, empathy, and possibly strength. One can be the political hero who puts a band-aid fix on the massacre of war they caused abroad.

It seems just a way to feign need to limit civilian access to firearms and ammo. It starts by conjuring a reason to ban export abroad, then creating a reason to ban sales domestically always comes next. Just like this administration did with their war on oil, the war on guns is going full steam, with the media trying to hide most of what has been going on. Biden's admin has changed EVERYTHING about gun laws, while few have been paying attention. The pressure is on high and the rug pull is coming...

[–]hfxB0oyA[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well summarized.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The strategic reserves don't need to be so big anymore, because there is an actual domestic supply of oil. The name strategic reserves is out of date for that reason.

You would be right, if the strategic reserve still had that role. Perhaps their website would still claim it is, but I don't think it still has that role in reality. (when there is a war time shortage, they would just commandeer various wells)

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm a bit on the fence about that, myself.

I have the understanding that we have a domestic supply of oil, of which we don't have a domestic refining capability of, to scale, and that we mostly sell our oil to other countries and import, more-or-less, Russian oil, which our refineries and infrastructure are optimized for. I'm sure we are scrambling to improve this balance, but it will take a long time, especially after the Biden admin shit on our domestic supply and suppliers when first entering office. I don't give our domestic supply much credit in the context, due to this. Yet, our military has made huge strides to remove its reliance on oil. I am doubtful that this major progress is quite enough for a large or sustained war, with fuel disruptions, though.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ultimately, all of the geopolitical tensions just show that, whatever your alliance is, you need to have your supply chains managed and secured up to the latest bolt for every atomic number of interest. That requires a level of control, which is antithetical to "free trade".

Similarly, the US can try to protect chips all they want, but three nukes targeted at the right location smuggled via a container and all the infrastructure and knowledge for sustaining our current technical level is gone. I think the list of people with knowledge for how to construct the best chips in the world is uncomfortably small. In fact, you could probably just send one hundred secret agents to take out all of them in a day.

The military industrial complex is really weird. The idea that the government is dependent on companies to create their munition is just insanity at work. What if it is more profitable for those companies to instead lower weapons output or to produce shells that will only explode when in a test environment like with the Diesel Gate with VW?

[–]twolanterns 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

what was the reason given ?

""The commerce department did not provide further details for the pause, which also includes shotguns and optical sights, but said an urgent review will assess the “risk of firearms being diverted to entities or activities that promote regional instability, violate human rights, or fuel criminal activities”. ""

Sounds like an excuse which could be used for exporting anything

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HOW ABOUT HALTING ILLEGAL ALIENS ENTERING THIS COUNTRY FOR THE VERY SAME CONCERN ???

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[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

and halt sending fast and furious weapons to the cartels in mexico

[–]twolanterns 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

was that ever even acknowledged by the big dem lefty media ???

we have decades of dem crimes that they can still face justice for

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah well it started in 2006 during W Bush so the dem media already reported on it but Obama kept it going, they did report that but not in a big way. My theory always was that Obama was a puppet and not really in charge but if people don't believe that then he must have signed off on it, or else the theory is that the ATF went rogue and did it against his wishes, like with CIA and JFK.

[–]hfxB0oyA[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

People are probably sending guns to the Palestinians. I couldn't think of any other situation that would curtail America's profiting off of bloodlust.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

More likely they are sending guns to Europe to shoot up some more shoppers.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Like this will stop the smart people and bad guys.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'll be honest I want americans to have guns and I want other countries to not have them

[–]hfxB0oyA[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. I'd rather see the American people resist their own shit government than be sent overseas to kill people they have no personal beef with.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Basically there has been an upsurge in orders and they don't know exactly who and why so they are putting a halt on everyone until they work it out.

[–]LordoftheFlies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm betting it's Australia, and they're finally gearing up to take out the spiders and emus for good.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My bet is on the spiders and emus

[–]gosso920 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ukraine is off the gravy train.