Zelensky enrages Russia by bringing home Azovstal commanders from Turkey

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Heil Hitler and Zelenskyberg!

[–]neolib[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

To be fair, this looks more of an Erdogan's decision, as he was the guarantor of the deal ("commanders spend time in Turkey until the end of the war"). But I didn't find a news story with him mentioned in title :(

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    [–]JerkChicken 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    And yet it was a common topic of conversation before the conflict. Why are you fixated on present media narratives and offended by the possibility of facts that don't align well with your support of the allies?

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      [–]JerkChicken 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      Millions of lives destroyed? About 15,000 killed in action on each side in a conflict that's been escalating for the last 10 years at least. Get your facts straight.

      I'm entitled to not pick a side, and I'm entitled to not give a shit when a provocateur gets a reaction. Ukraine has for a long time been ranked as one of the top three most corrupt countries in the world, and by escalating this conflict and avoiding solutions for ceasefire they have had an unlimited source of free funds from the west, paid for by the tax-payer of countries not affected by the conflict. They can fuck off and so can you and their 600 reported Nazis. It was well understood that expanding NATO would lead to this, and yet it's been encouraged at every opportunity.

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        [–]JerkChicken 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        Hmm, it seems a Google search result snippet way overestimated the figure. It's far lower according to various statistical organizations.

        https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293492/ukraine-war-casualties/

        https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2023/05/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-8-may-2023

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        I am no fan of Putin or any other dictator.

        But those Azov guys are literal Nazis. And Zelensky is a dictator right now. He took over the media, outlawed opposition political parties, and used emergency powers to cancel an election. The last time anything like that happened was...Nazi Germany

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          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Were Churchill and Franklin Delano Roosevelt dictators?

          Did FDR do state takeovers of the media? Did he outlaw opposition parties? Did he cancel democratic elections? I'm not aware of him doing any of those things. My knowledge of Churchill and his policies is limited, I can't speak to that.

          Can you give me an example of any supposedly free democracy doing the things Zelensky just did in wartime besides Adolf Hitler in Germany? Because I am not aware of any, and that would seem to not be the best club to be in