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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You couldn't pay me enough money to be a landlord, no amount is worth having deal tenant bullshit. Mind, I know full well that there are plenty of landlords who are utter shit, but the sheer number of horror stories I've heard where tenants just abuse every protection meant to keep them from being abused is entirely too many.

And then the vast mob of unwashed assholes who think it's a full-blown crime against humanity that someone is actually making money by providing housing to others, instead being a being a good comrade and letting them squat for free like they deserve.

[–]RedditButt 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not as bad as they make it out to be. You can hire a property manager who handles applicants/screening (weeds out problems before they start), as well as manages the books for about 10% of the rent. Doing it properly mitigates most of the problems. I have never had a problem myself, and just treat the small issues as a cost of doing business and budget accordingly.

For every outrage-bait story you hear about bad landlords and bad tenants, there are many more where people aren't jerks. For those inexperienced, and even moderately savvy with things, the property manager's services are worth it. The "professional tenants" (ones who apply to squat or cause problems) avoid the companies and experience people, and prey on the naive random person. They also make sure you (and your tenants) are in compliance with all the local laws, and know them well because they deal with it every day. If you ever rent a place out, I highly encourage utilizing a good property manager.

[–]slavdude0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm running a couple properties. But I'm screening the fuck out of potential tenants, and I'm mostly renting them to kids with rich daddies. It's been years and I had like 5 issues with shit being broken due to partying. Daddies paid so IDGAF.

But yeah. Overall it is a nightmare. But there are tricks to ommit protections.

[–]ace-wolf 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Well that guy is definitely a pedo. There’s no other reason someone would defend them that hard

[–]NastyWetSmear 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I suspect that his "friend" that "struggles with that shit" might greet him every morning in the bathroom mirror.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The progressive left believes everything that is a 'need' should be a 'right' and therefore 'free'. They have no understanding of the monetary and labour costs involved in actually providing things like housing and food. If they were just talking about wanting to build their own houses and grow their own food and not be taxed or controlled by others I might sympathize, but they would likely consider that a right wing position.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I don't know, man... Free or almost-free housing (like, rent that's 10% of income) might actually solve a lot of problems. People still have to pay for utilities and food and clothes and stuff, but extremely affordable housing is one of those leftist ideas I'm kind of on board with.

[–]Jiminy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The fear is people might not work as hard if they're given a place to live or it's too cheap.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's also not something that lends itself to vote-bidding partisanship or can be spun into another culture war--my Alex Jones-loving cousin rants about Blackrock and the damn RED CHINESE buying all the housing stock, but is stumped by the question of what she wants done about it besides talk over us for 30 minutes when we're at Grandma's

interesting how something's been rendered unthinkable when Barry Goldwater wouldn't have really complained about such a policy

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, but there's a difference between affordable housing and hating a landlord because they require you to pay at all. Worse still, most of these people are hypocrites; they'll rail about expensive rents but if you put any of them in the position of being a landlord, you can damned well believe that they'd be acting the same way with their properties.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Most likely they would be the worst type of scum landlord.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I suspect that they'd be, for starters, extremely discriminatory about who they rent to. Especially if the tenant doesn't vote Dem.

[–]xoenix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]AriShekelsteinDDS 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don’t dispute that there can be some shitty landlords. But that’s not that. The anti-work/anti-landlord crowd resents the fact that they have to pay to live somewhere.

In their minds, it should be free (at least for them. Because they are so sooooper spessschul!).

Remember, any dollar that ends up in anybody’s pocket but their own is, in their minds, the result of some ill gotten gain.

[–]RedditButt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In their minds, it should be free

This will probably outrage some, but if I factor in the price I paid for my home 20 years ago, and it's value now, not only have I lived for free the last 20 years, but I'm in the black by about $500/month averaged through that time after factoring in paying for the entire house + mortgage (interest + taxes + insurance) + utilities. And I rounded up on those costs.

I literally have been living free just by being a homeowner.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Did you have to rent at first before that, most can't buy a house right away until they get a good job and can get approved for a bank loan.

[–]RedditButt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I did for a few years initially.

I don't miss it that much, though. Not only are you cramped closer together, you get some of the more difficult personalities that come with budget-apartment people, like being quicker to anger, annoying/careless/thoughtless/passive-aggressive habits, lesser ability to manage conflict like adults, etc. Compare it to reddit 2008 (the homeowner) to reddit 2024 (the apartment rat).

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The false equivalence there when the person tries to say you need to pick between landlords or pedos is crazy. Like yes i think people should moderate their "hatred" of pedos who don't act on their attractions and yes the status quo of rising rents are a blight on society. But the fact that they feel the need to jump to defending pedos for no reason is suspicious and also there's no attempt to differentiate between a landlord and a corporate landlord.