Transgender candidates in Ohio could be disqualified from ballot for failing to disclose 'deadnames'

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[–]Femaleisnthateful 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trans people say they want equality when what they mean is special treatment and exemptions from the rules everyone else has to follow.

[–]xoenix 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Too many skeletons.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

For the folks who don't want to deal with ads or Fox attempting to hook them into signing up for spam, here.

To my considerable surprise, I'm actually with the TRAs on this one. The law does exist, for good reason, and should be followed. BUT, if they were not properly informed of the law's existence in the course of registering themselves as candidates, then they shouldn't be punished by being denied their status as valid candidates; the burden (IMO) is on the government to provide the necessary (and up-to-date) material that they require.

(If, on the other hand, they fail to disclose in accordance with the law's requirements after being informed of it, then yes, they absolutely should be denied their candidate status.)

Aside from that, though, it's the same old "we're being genocided" hyperbole and faux suffering that I've come to expect out these people.

[–]wylanderuk 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Is it new or a old law?

I mean I am assuming its not new and basically boils down to stop someone from hiding under a new name to avoid shit from their past coming to light and if that is the case why the fuck should they be able to sidestep it?

Granted I am also assuming they have to certify they have followed the rules to be qualified as valid candidates, they did not? Yeah cry me a river, build me a bridge and get the fuck over it.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Says the law was put into place in 1995, so it's been around awhile.

And I'm not saying that they shouldn't be held to it. I'm saying that if someone didn't do their job and make these candidates aware of the law to begin with--and do remember that we're talking about the government, fucking up their own regulations is practically a job requirement--then the candidates shouldn't be punished for it by having their candidacy invalidated.

In fact, the article even quotes one of the candidates in question, who said that they would have complied with the law (albeit unhappily) if they'd known it existed.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah if there hasn't been any notification they need to provide their previous legal name for the ballot, then the solution is not to simply remove them from the ballot, it's to ask them for their legal name to fulfill the legal requirement.

Now if upon request of their previous legal names they rhee and scream genocide and fail to provide it, then you remove them from the ballot for failure to comply with the rules, but not before.

I can see why someone might have overlooked some law like this in the initial process.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Honestly, I think that the law doesn't even work and the TRA's shouldn't even have to give their deadname, on the grounds that there have been cisgendered candidates who ran under their new name and were completely allowed to run without using their birth name. When he won in Minnesota, James Janos was not required to run under his birth name, he could run for governor using his professional name of Jesse Ventura and no one questioned it. If a cisgendered actor/pro wrestler is allowed to use his name he uses professionally instead of his birth name when in the political field, a trans person can use their new name too.

Hell, if the people who'd go to Fox News for news think "...but it's hurting trans people so it's a good thing", this won't end well for them- IIRC, "Donald Trump" is not his birth name and by this law, it'd take him off the Ohio ballot as a result.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I recall correctly, the law in question does have a time limit (5 years or so?) after which it no longer applies, and it's just that the affected candidates apparently all fall in that window. Donald Trump wouldn't.

About the law as a whole, I firmly believe that the candidates not being made properly aware of it is the usual government demonstration of ineptitude. However, the fact that it's being brought up now, with regards to the troons running for office, is shady as shit. I don't always succeed at it, but I try to acknowledge the fuckery even when it comes from the side I'm nominally in favor of, and I'm absolutely certain that this is fuckery.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They want to focus on the issues, and not the baby they raped when they were going by Gary.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

  • I don't get the deadname thing. If you're proud of transitioning, why not be honest that you did so? If your trans reality is so fragile that hearing the name you were given at birth could tear it all down, maybe rethink that.

  • While we're at it, why do trans people change their last names? Seems shady.

  • Finally, why does Fox News make it so damn difficult to read the articles. Isn't that the meat and potatoes of the site? Not that you have my email and got me to pause ads? I did all that and still had to wait for a damn email confirmation to read the article. How's that saying go? If a club wants you as a member, chances are it's not worth being in?