The reasons for trooning out

submitted by QueenBread from (i.imgur.com)

all 46 comments
sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun

[–]LtGreenCo 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

That's how feminists interpret everything. "Agency and power" are like every baby feminist's first words. I read that and my eyes just glaze over.

Nah people don't transition over some perceived gender struggle over agency or power. There are many reasons why they do it. A straight man might troon out because he has an AGP + exhibitionism fetish. A gay man may troon out because he's confused drag queen for a gender identity. Many young straight girls troon out because they are impressionable and most susceptible to this gender hysteria, which makes them the perfect target for groomers. Gay women probably troon out because presenting as an ugly butch female isn't doing them any favors.

Not to mention all of it has been greatly bolstered in recent years by the social justice movement having flipped the hierarchy upside down so the most "victimized" people are now at the top of the entitlement pyramid and are seen as the high priests of the church of progressivism. That's an enormous incentive to draw people into the church, and declaring yourself to be another gender is the most effortless way to ascend the ranks quickly. In other words, trooning out is a quick way for lonely losers to climb the social ladder.

[–]QueenBread[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

The moment you decided to ignore the issue is the moment nothing else you wrote mattered. You must be one of those guys who comment hilarious crap like "girls have it so much easier", "if I were a girl I'd do porn and get paid to fuck", "feminism is not necessary anymore". People like you are close to the "being gay is only either choice or the result of sexual harassment" people.

[–]LtGreenCo 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

"girls have it so much easier"

In the West? In many many ways, yes, they have it easy. But men do in other ways as well. It's not a competition.

In the third world? Women are kinda fucked and it's generally terrible for them. But weird how I don't see many feminists concerned with those women.

"if I were a girl I'd do porn and get paid to fuck"

Not a big fan of dicks, so... hard pass. Also not a big fan of porn. Well, not the weird shit that qualifies for porn these days.

"feminism is not necessary anymore"

In Westernized countries, not so much. I think first and second waves accomplished what they wanted. With few exceptions, women can do whatever the fuck they want now and are protected by law. But the third wave... the third wave is based on really shaky speculative notions, heavily influenced by Marxism, and is why we're in the mess we're in right now. Of course now in a twist of irony we see the radfems going hard against trannies, which I think is a net positive, but when the smoke clears they will still be radfems and will still be a problem.

"being gay is only either choice or the result of sexual harassment"

I think people are born gay and people who say they've been converted are full of shit.

What say you now?

[–]QueenBread[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

With few exceptions, women can do whatever the fuck they want now and are protected by law.

That's what you think because you aren't a woman.

We still live in a world where, even ir supposedly civilized countries, 90-95% of positions of power are held by men. We still live in a world where women can lose their rights in an instant, as the troonery trend can immediately show you: all they need to do is to allow men in women's private spaces like sports and bathrooms, and women are done being equal. While women intruding in men's bathrooms or sports or whatever is of no consequence. We still live in a world where women are hated just for being women. We still live in a world where women haven't escaped the shackles of their biology.

And I am sure this is going to instinctively make you angry. You hate hearing that women are weak. You think they have more than enough, thEY have it easy now, and they should be taught their place. That's because you're part of the problem.

[–]LtGreenCo 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

90-95% of positions of power are held by men

This disparity is not clear evidence for your argument though. Men and women generally have much different temperaments and hence life and career goals stemming from said temperaments. You can't just point to a statistic and go "see? evidence of institutional sexism!", you have to actually investigate, drill down, and factor in all the variables at play. And there are many to consider in this case.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Men and women generally have much different temperaments and hence life and career goals stemming from said temperaments.

The absolute bullshit of this comment. So, what's a woman's temperament like? She can be a nurse? Of course, not a CEO, a surgeon or a lawyer?

[–]fuck_redditThou/Thee/Thy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Do you not see how this opinion is one step removed from troonery? There is no temperamental difference between men and women, then why does it matter if one transitions? Women are equal to men in every way, after all. It’s also interesting to me that trans people tend to say the opposite after transitioning. I’ve seen a lot of men saying being a woman is great and a lot of women saying being a man is tough as shit.

[–]QueenBread[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Men say being a woman is easy because they're not women. So they get access to the "privileges" without any of the bullshit. Kinda like a multimillionarie who gets access to free food for the homeless, and as he's gobbling down the free meal, he says that being poor is actually nice and easy.

Women say being a man is hard because they're not men. They try to look menacing and fail; they try to have boys consider them boys and fail; they try to get the advantages of being men but fail. So it's definitely very hard for them to (try to) be a man.

What dipshits like you always fail to understand is that when people say that men and women are equal, it means they're equally intelligent and equally worthy of their place in society. Especially now, in modern society, where the one thing men are actually better at - strength and violence - is no longer much needed.

[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Women can be, and are, all those things, but among your list they would be more likely to choose nursing. Women will generally tend to flock to more social and/or caretaking roles like nursing, teaching, nutrition, therapy, childcare, etc. because women are on average much more engaging, sensitive, nurturing, compassionate, agreeable, courteous. That doesn't mean all women are like this nor does it mean all women will choose those career paths. But it does mean that a majority will.

You don't need a scientific study to understand this about men and women, you just need basic experience around different people to notice the obvious personality differences. But in case you do need a scientific study, here's a few to check out:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11519935/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913007836

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18179326/

http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fpsyg.2011.00178/full

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15740445/

[–]QueenBread[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's because women get pregnant (and in general they also care about their kids). All of a sudden you have to stop work for a year, and afterwards you need to dedicate time to your children. THIS is the main reason why women don't get into important roles. They can't dedicate their whole life to work.

The second reason is sexism. "Diversity hires" is bullshit now, but it was originally implemented precisely because most employers prefer to hire a man than a woman.

Just a couple years ago, a prestigious university of medicine in Japan was discovered to alter the results of the entrance tests so that women would fail and men would pass. Imagine how long this went on? Women passing the entrance test but being denied access and being told they failed; men not passing the test but getting access. And of course I bet people were saying "women just aren't interested in medicine".

[–]IMissPorn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We still live in a world where, even in supposedly civilized countries, 90-95% of positions of power are held by men.

Are they really though? "Positions of power" is a bit of a slippery concept, but just for the sake of an easy figure, I took a look at congress. That's 28% women. Admittedly well short of the theoretical ideal of 50%, but also a lot higher than the 5%-10% you suggested. This is also the highest percent of women it's even been, indicating the trend will likely continue.

[–]QueenBread[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The trend ain't gonna continue anytime soon as we have just seen how easy it is to undo all progress that has been made towards gender equality.

[–]wylanderuk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course now in a twist of irony we see the radfems going hard against trannies

The real irony is the entire "no bio differences between the sexes" came from them in the first place...

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (30 children)

More simple than that.

Men want to be sexually desired more and women want to be sexually desired less.

[–]wylanderuk 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

women want to be sexually desired less

Yeah calling bullshit on that one, just on seeing how women dress. Not how they dress when going out (although that ramps it the all the way up) but just normally.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do you live in Rio or are you just a horndog?

Most women wear casual clothes most of the time.

[–]wylanderuk 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you live in Rio or are you just a horndog?

Nether.

Most women wear casual clothes most of the time.

Its funny how often those casual clothes are booty shorts, skin tight leggings, mid riff tops (generally tight)...Fuck some of the skirts I see them wearing day in day out are one dropped item short of mooning everybody behind them.

And considering the weather here in Scotland at the moment absolutely nobody is going to convince me they are wearing this crap for "comfort".

Now frankly I don't give a flying fuck what they wear, but you will not convince me its for comfort or not to advertise their body. if those leggings are so tight and thin people can see what brand of underwear you are wearing and if you shave or not its not a fucking accident.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

Ew. Giving major "she asked for it because she was dressed like that" vibes. Yikes....

[–]wylanderuk 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (24 children)

Only because you are a fucking freak...

[–]superbug 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

A furry specifically

[–]wylanderuk 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Don't forget self hating troon...

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Your retort isn't quite working. You've proven time and time before that you're completely deranged. But the somewhat rapey comment you made in this thread? I think that one tops them all. You're the kind of guy leering at a woman who wears yoga pants and thinking she's doing it to provoke you. Ew.

[–]wylanderuk 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

What the ever living fuck do mean "provoke me"? You delusional fucking nutjob...

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You know what I mean. By the way, hilarious that you think -I- am the delusional nutjob. This website has turned into a chesspool of retarded incels, however. I should stop hanging around here to laugh at you guys.

[–]wylanderuk 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I have no fucking idea what you mean, unlike you and your no doubt large collection of mental issues I can observe and comment on something without a extreme emotional reaction.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You know, claiming others have mental issues is not going to make people not see you're a nutcase.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good

[–]wylanderuk 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

The person that comes off as *completely deranged" is you. There is absolutely nothing "rapey" about calling bullshit on bullshit.

Again I will state I don't give a flying fuck how people dress, but if people dress in a eye-catching or attention grabbing way and claim its not to catch the eye or grab attention I am going to call bullshit.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Your post history here is that of a deranged unstable incel who hates women and is close to commit a violent crime.

[–]wylanderuk 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Says the furry degenerate self hating troon rad fem that was kicked off of ovart for being a fuckwit who is the only person I have seen on here ever complaining about not getting dates...

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Furry" and "kicked from ovarit" being real, but where the heck have you hallucinated all the rest?

[–]wylanderuk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Your past comments...

[–]TroonGenocide 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I see you on so many posts and every time you're spouting some retarded bullshit.

[–]QueenBread[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

If you think what I write is retarded bullshit, that only means you're the retard. It's kinda like how a troon would think that someone saying biological sex is real is "spewing retarded bullshit".

[–]TroonGenocide 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Your troon logic is spilling over. Also I have no idea how you fail to see that everyone disagrees with and hates you. I'm certain anytime anyone sees your retard posts they know to take it with less than a grain of salt.

[–]grassfed 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Mm

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I don't think most people disagree with my idea that women aren't wearing yoga pants to give you a boner, nutcase.

[–]grassfed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You are completely wrong, go hang around more with thots

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty much.

[–]wylanderuk 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Bullshit rad fem theory pulled out of their arses infinity plus one...

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Rad fem", lol.