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[–]ClassroomPast6178 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

The whole 2+2=5 argument is ridiculous, it was a stupid maths joke and now some idiots are acting like it’s actual maths.

Next they’ll be claiming that cows are spherical because of a physics joke.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The whole 2+2=5 argument is ridiculous, it was a stupid maths joke and now some idiots are acting like it’s actual maths.

I think it's worse than ridiculous. If you think about it, it's a very insidious mental trap that manipulates people into agreeing that a falsehood is truth (or vice-versa) because of a bit of verbal (or mathematical in this case) sleight of hand. And once you trained those people to agree to that "truth," you escalate in steady increments until they finally agree to the truth of that one thing that you most need their agreement on.

Look at all of the other "truths" that are being incessantly pushed; January 6th was an insurrection (oh, and look, states are now using that as justification to pull Trump from their ballots, convenient that), men can be women and women can be men, Covid is the new Black Death and we all need to mask up, isolate, and boost on command, children are fully capable of making life-altering choices regarding their bodies and we need to listen to them, and so on.

I'm not saying that 2+2 = 5 is going to reshape people's way of thinking all on its own, but I do see it was another aspect of the on-going effort to get people to blindly agree that something is factual just because a bunch of other people all nod their heads and agree that it's so.

[–]ID10T 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"In 1984, "2+2=5" is a false statement created by the Party and an example of the many ways the Party controls people. In making people believe that a random, false statement is an objective truth, the Party distorts and claims control of truth itself. Winston understands that slogans like "2+2=5" are mechanisms of the Party's social control until he is tortured. In the end, he traces the equation in dust, showing that the Party eventually controls him, too."