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[–]alladd 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, I dunno about that definition. The right to due process is provided to all citizens of the US and that confers quite a lot of effort and time onto the state and other citizens to form a jury, hold a trial, etc.

[–]TossEmFar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think the difference in due process is the fact that being there is mandatory. It would be more comparable if you were forced to be in the hospital when you're injured, but could only get a doctor if you paid first.

Obviously any comparison will fall apart at some point, but exploring these nuances is half the fun!

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well, that also leads to the answer to claim healthcare IS a human right, because the tiebreaker; no matter how high the medical bills a patient has, the hospital is not allowed to refuse service to the patient. They may need to pay for it, but the hospital isn't allowed to say "You owe us this money so we're going to let you die."

End result, healthcare counts as a human right.

[–]TossEmFar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sadly, a single web search turns up the fact that hospitals are allowed to (and frequently do) refuse treatment on grounds that the patient is unable to pay.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Emergency rooms do not, however.