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[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Having been immersed in child protection for more than a decade, it’s quite interesting to see child protection language entering common usage and then being used by women about adult women.

I do wonder if it is also to do with there being a generation of adults now that have grown up in the modern child protection environment and have had all risk and challenges managed for them rather than having to manage and mitigate it for themselves.

So instead of thinking “that dark alleyway isn’t a safe choice at 2am, I’ll take the longer but well-lit public road”, it becomes “there should be someone to protect me as I walk down this dark alleyway at 2am and don’t you dare say otherwise as that’s victim-blaming”.

It’s sort of like a kid bumbling around knowing that their parents will be there to protect them from any harm. The sorts of things we used to learn going to and from school on our own and out with friends in the evenings, getting into scrapes and situations and dealing with it ourselves.

[–]wylanderuk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Having been in the generation that straddled corporal punishment in school being banned (it got banned here in Scotland as I went to high school) I think it may have been a mistake to fully get rid of it. I know I was more of a little fuckhead once the threat of it was removed.

I mean yeah there were asshole teachers that abused it, no fucking doubt. But it took away that instant short sharp shock for being a little dickhead.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As a teacher there simply isn’t enough money in the world to make me want to cane a child. So even if there was corporal punishment I’d never apply it nor send a child for it.

Modern behaviour management techniques can work if it is applied consistently, fairly and no staff undermine it because they want to be friends with the students (or they think that there’s a racial bias in discipline, something I’ve actually heard said).

Too many new teachers, however, are young twenty something women who really shouldn’t be in schools let alone the kinds of secondary schools that they get sent to by the training schemes (Teach First). In primary it’s made worse by the fact that there’s an undergraduate route into it and it is 99.9% the people too thick to get onto a better undergrad course. (I did the postgraduate route in my mid-thirties).

[–]wylanderuk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As a teacher there simply isn’t enough money in the world to make me want to cane a child. So even if there was corporal punishment I’d never apply it nor send a child for it.

I honestly don't really have a issue with this viewpoint, but being in school when it was a thing (well the belt, not caning) and I only got it once the embarrassment of getting it far outstripped any momentary pain it caused.

Hell one of the lest likely teachers to actually give the belt in the high school (from what I heard of) I went to was a teacher that on the first day would sit a full bit of chalk on a desk (standing up ) and turn it to dust with one whack of the belt.

But I am not saying it needs to be brought back, just that it might be better if it was still a option.