Jailed male sex offenders ‘faking trans identities’ to move to women’s prisons

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[–]IMissPorn 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Can you fake something that doesn't exist?

I mean, OK I guess you can in some contexts. If I claim to be a Time-Traveling Martian Prince this is pretty clearly false.

But "trans identity" doesn't have any meaningful definition in the first place. Trans activists generally speaking are strongly against the idea that you need to feel dysphoria to be trans. The other day i was reading a thread titled "I wish I were a girl, does that mean I'm trans?" And one of the answers he got was, essentially, "Why don't you try being a girl for a while and see if you like it?". Seriously, that's how the very people who promote the concept think it works.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Can you fake something that doesn't exist?

Why not? I mean people have claimed to have memories of past lives and what not. Does that exist? I realize you start to go into the religious argument and I wish to avoid the kind of new atheist hostility bullshit. But regardless, if past lives are real, someone could still just make that up. And if they aren't real, they can still make it up, so it is kind of irrelevant.

Whether or not we accept trans-identification as something that is real or not is kind of irrelevant to the point that someone could just pretend to be trans, especially if they stand to gain something from it. It is a braindead easy point to win in any fair argument.

1; "People don't pretend to be trans"

2; "They can"

1; "No that doesn't happen"

2; "I'm trans"

1; "No you arent"

2; "You have to accept me"

1; "You are just pretending"

Easy.

[–]IMissPorn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I refrained from bringing up religion, but yeah any time members of a religion get special treatment there's a similar issue. People can "convert to" and "identify as" anything they want, and trying to judge their sincerity seems like a big waste of time. I don't see why we should treat people differently based on non-falsifiable claims in the first place.