Is it normal to not feel trans, but instead feel like someone pretending to be trans?

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[–]clownworlddropout 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, that's very normal. In fact all "trans" people are pretending.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Not me

[–]clownworlddropout 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Man and woman describe males and females respectfully, if you are a male then you are a man and a man must be male. Sex is the key component of gender, sex is what informed all our concepts of gender. A "trans" person pretends this isn't so, and that a male can be a woman.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have a mental illness, I'm not pretending anything different

[–]OuroborosTheory 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

once they got rid of the requirement that you needed dysphoria ("it's cruel, you see! just like making kids grow up!") the whole category just deliquisced everywhere and now actually includes 100% of humans: and, worse, all of their rhetoric ("we'll kill ourselves!") and gender analysis ("either you feel your sex is the wrong one, or you don't really feel anything") was built around the now-discarded dysphoria

so they CAN'T say the balding Ben Franklin cosplayer sticking their dick in babies or their half-demented mother is LYING; when Zuby identified as a woman for a few minutes, they couldn't say "uh, he obviously didn't mean it!"

[–]ClassroomPast6178 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, the whole point of gatekeeping is to keep the undesirables out. They made gatekeeping into a sin and then were pikachu-faced when the undesirables waltzed in and took a big old shit on the carpet.

[–]OuroborosTheory 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

in this world, it's gatekeep, or GET gatekept

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Complaining about gatekeeping is a deeply entitled mindset anyway, it tends to show that someone believes they have a right to access to some group regardless.

It's entirely possible to be way too strict towards people incoming to the detriment of a group, but it's also entirely possible to not be strict enough.

I've had kids whine and complain about gatekeeping online when, following one of the kids asking me if they think they are a good fit for a role despite having some mental health issue. And they hate it when I say basically, no, you'll have a bad time and do poorly. As if I'm the one making the decisions here.

World works a certain way. Can't change it, not my problem. Reminds me of that professor that got disciplined for telling her lesbian students not to go to deepest darkest Africa because they were gay.

Ah you're gay and want to go protest in front of the Kaaba and hang rainbow flags and all that. Well I guess I'm homophobic if I call you an idiot because you'll get stoned so, have fun with that. Gates to hell aren't guarded.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Imposter syndrome is real, babes. Welcome to the struggle. It ebbs and flows but i don't think it ever really ends entirely.

That was one of the replies. Just read it and think about what the implication of that is.

If you feel like you’re pretending, you’re pretending, it’s not rocket science.

It’s not like starting a new job and feeling like you aren’t qualified/as qualified as your colleagues (guess what, 99% of the time, you’re not but you will get there in time), when it comes to health/mental health, if you think even a tiny bit you’re pretending- then you need to stop and consider why. The OP even says that they have a friend who’s a troonette, so we have an idea of how the OP came to troonery.

A slight diversion, the whole “imposter syndrome” shit, people acting like it’s an oppression, when it affects almost everyone and is a good thing (it reminds you you’re new to something). I blame the self-esteem obsession in education, everyone being taught that they’re special and unique and perfect just as they are.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

'Its normal to feel like shit for the rest of your life. That's called gender euphoria "

[–]ClassroomPast6178 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

When I read “gender euphoria” I can’t help but think of those TikTok videos of fake autists claiming to be “stimming”, except with a boner.

[–]OuroborosTheory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

or that blobfish cartoonist that the LGBTs hated even before being outed for, I repeat, tracing a photo of an actual baby with a saggy diaper for a fetish of being a baby in a diaper

[–]BluuDegenerate 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Wasn't that the assigned male idiot, not the blobfish? Using real photo of a baby as furry diaper reference material

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

yes, I meant everyone in Assigned Male looks like a blobfish with sloppy eyes and all

[–]BluuDegenerate 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, fair point. "Blobfish cartoonist" just makes me think of blobby and friends, which is also just awful

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you feel like you’re pretending, you’re pretending, it’s not rocket science.

"Feel" like you're pretending? Those are fake feelings.
Feelings have nothing to do with it.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Not one person tells him/her/it to slow the fuck down.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It's Reddit, and a troon sub specifically. Would you expect anything else from that validation engine?

[–]ClassroomPast6178 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

It’s exactly how cults work.

Ignore your doubts, turn off your reasoning brain, accept our love, cut anyone that disagrees out of your life.

The fact that this cult spread with such speed and was given so much political cover is astonishing.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Bet the people running Scientology are seething with envy :D.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Scientology had to run a covert op on the IRS in order to blackmail their way to political cover - and it now seems like their time is coming to an end as more and more of their shit is revealed.

[–]OuroborosTheory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's quite impressive, actually

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Consequence of social media and COVID restrictions moving a lot of the public discourse online. Reddit always had problems but during COVID the mods got more power than normal and went on the authoritarian warpath cultivating their own little fiefdoms where they are supreme arbiter of opinion.

It's not even necessarily unusual. Cults do the same thing. If you are a cult member and you start asking difficult questions about the dogma you'll be excommunicated. Especially in really restrictive ones where they'll manufacture some excuse like "he was reading some unapproved material" because why else would you be asking questions?

[–]LtGreenCo 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There is, surprisingly enough. Made 6 hours ago:

UnionMaleficent2147: "There are so many detrans people, so yeah, maybe hold off or slow down."

[–]binaryblob 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think it would be really difficult to convince yourself you are a woman when you have a dick or no uterus.

It should be considered a brain disease, even though it's not curable right now. I have no doubt there is a bunch of genes that might switch on or off that tell your brain how you are supposed to feel, but that doesn't mean it would be reasonable to not consider the wrong states to be a disease.

How do the actual scientists see this? I mean, of course, they can't say on national television that all trans people are in fact sick, but perhaps they publish the same in some journals or something (which nobody reads anyway).

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's insulting to me for it be dismissed as "diversity" and they actively work against relieving the pain it causes me.

[–]binaryblob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Without genetically weird people who should they make fun of? That's your answer. Fundamentally, they despise you.

[–]TigerFoo 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

IncreaseImpressive91 1 point 20 hours ago For a few years after I found out about trans people I got super fixated on the idea of being trans. I remember thinking “I wish I could be trans” I then realized what I actually was thinking was “I am trans, and I wish people knew I was a woman”

Bro really just talked himself into being a tranny, probably through fetish shit too. What the fuck

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I only had slight signs as a child. I have a friend who’s also FTM who’s known his entire life, and I’m somehow jealous that he has a ‘valid trans narrative’ and I don’t, which could contribute to it. I don’t want him to feel like I’m copying him for attention, if it makes any sense, especially because I only started questioning my gender after meeting him (though the two events are unrelated).

It's 100% narrative. Which is funny.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I read that and I see.

'I don't have a valid trans narrative' > I've literally zero good reason to identify as trans.

'I don’t want him to feel like I’m copying him for attention. ' > This is a concern because this is totally what I am doing.

'I only started questioning my gender after meeting him (though the two events are unrelated).' > I'm lying to myself because the events are related and I'm doing it for attention.

Makes a lot of sense really. This person flat out admits and knows the underlying reason. They are jealous of the attention this person is getting and trying to emulate it. But they know it's all bullshit. Course in the trans cult "I feel depressed because I'm living a lie" gets twisted around to "you aren't living the lie hard enough and feeling depressed if proof you are actually trans" or some such.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"you aren't living the lie hard enough and feeling depressed if proof you are actually trans" or some such.

This is the trap.

But they know it's all bullshit.

I bet this person takes hormones, but won't chop it off.

[–]binaryblob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

FTM

They even have their own little language, Isn't that cute?

[–]IkeConn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like they got brainwashed in school.