I learned that the figure of trans kids I’d read from different sources, .06, may be overestimated. That is, self-reports of feeling trans may entirely be a culture-bound syndrome and have no biological basis. “If gender is constructed, then how could trans not be a culture-bound syndrome?”

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[–]Alienhunter糞大名 14 insightful - 8 fun14 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

Ah yeah see the problem is you are trying to use a reality based material argument with logic.

But what you don't realize is that logical reasoning and material reality are both transphobic constructs of the patriarchy and even awknoledging them in any way other than giving an unhesistant and complete statement of support and affirmation means you've comittrd stochastic genocide across the multiverse.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

It’d be funny if 90% of what you said wasn’t truely believed by these twits.

[–]JulienMayfair 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm in my 50s, and I'm constantly struck by how quickly gender has exploded as an identity category since 2010. I used to teach university classes, and in 20 years of teaching, I never had a single trans-identified student. Yes, I had known a few transgender people -- very few -- but it was still very rare. And whatever "transgender" is, I still think it's not well-understood.

What I do think is that the phenomenon seems to express some need for identity categories on the part of younger people. They seem to be looking for some points of stable reference in our culture, and gender appears to have been offered to them as an option. It reminds me to some degree of people I've encountered who were deeply into astrology or some other kind of trendy identity, one difference being that astrology hasn't been taken this seriously for centuries.

[–]clownworlddropout 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's exactly like that, but this trend is incredibly harmful. Hormones have literally become a street drug with this generation, taking them is a part of their culture with or without medical oversight. These kids aren't going to be able to shrug off their blunder years when they grow out of this nonsense, they're going to wake up and realize they destroyed their bodies.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you’re interested in the what, how, why’s and wherefores of all of this stuff, Peter Boghossian interviewed Andrew Doyle about it and Doyle explains a great deal of the issue in a completely entertaining hour or so.

Andrew Doyle just wrote a book on the rise of the new puritans, which is what he calls the wokesters.

[–]JulienMayfair 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Andrew is brilliant.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I mean it's always been obvious to me that if "gender" is defined as a social construct, then claiming transgenderism to be a biological condition is complete nonsense. It's right up there with them saying gender dysphoria is a physiological condition not psychological. That is the reasoning I was given why changing the body "makes sense" for a psychological condition. Just claim it's fully physiological in that the body is wrong.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The whole concept of transgenderism, as claimed by the TRAs, requires either there be some form of soul or some form of mind-body dualism (in that the mind is separate from the body and not an emergent function of a complex nervous system), it’s entirely nonsense. You cannot be “born in the wrong body” because you are your body, there is no such thing as a gender identity that resides in your brain and makes you like football or barbie. There are statistical differences in the interests of men and women, but those still allow for boys who like Barbie and girls who know what offside is.

There are three actual possibilities, gender dysphoria - a delusion mental illness akin to a body dysmorphia, autogynephilia - a fetish where you are aroused by thinking of yourself as a woman, and hyperfeminine homosexuality. What is needed is proper research into the best ways to treat those three conditions, because no one should be prescribing medications or surgical procedures without evidence that they actually work. The trouble is any attempt to do the research is blocked by those who fear that the “wrong” results will cause a political problem and that is absolutely no way to do medical research.

In the 90s and 00s there was a great effort to promote evidence-based medicine, research was done that found all sorts of routine procedures and drugs had no effect or actually were harmful, a good example was a particular type of knee surgery where the surgeon trimmed the cartilage of the joint, they found that the surgery (which had been a real money spinner for orthopaedic surgeons in the US) had buggerall effect on knee pain and mobility. The fact that the medical establishment worldwide has allowed gender identity to run wild is a disgrace, it’s the lobotomy scandal of the 21st century.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Keep in mind that "GID" (gender identity disorder) was recognized until the DSM-5 was published May 18, 2013. It was redefined to "gender dysphoria", the thing you mention here. I think this was a huge step in adding to the nonsense which allowed for a public argument to be made against treating it as a disorder. They fully removed the psychological aspect now saying that the problem is no longer that you think you are the wrong sex, but that you are just stressed out because society is mean and you were "assigned the wrong gender at birth." Also if you check this article, it seems the academics who influenced the removal of GID from the DSM-5 were secretly running child sex fetish websites. https://genevievegluck.substack.com/p/academics-behind-fetish-site-hosting

[–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Peter Boghossian is both fascinating to listen to and infuriating at times. He has some cutting insights, but he sometimes stops short of putting it all together, I think it’s because he’s a philosopher and teacher and as a result leaves things for the listener to synthesise instead of spoon feeding it to you.

His Socratic approach to discussions is a refreshing change from people simply screaming at each other or dismissing others as either hateful or idiots - and it has the added benefit of revealing those who are merely parroting ideology and those that have put thought into their position, the parrots get angry quickly.

[–]cephyrious 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, he is best when he works with James Lindsay who is very good at putting it all together.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I enjoy James Lindsay’s stuff, he’s especially helpful when you want to know the source of some brand of the nonsense as he seems to have traced every bit of weirdness back to the originating academic. It’s because of him that I found out that the paedo rights movement attached itself to the gay rights movement in the 70s and had a vast swathe of the French intelligentsia supporting their cause and that that support crossed the English Channel and the Atlantic.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Boghossian is fantastic. Thanks for posting this!

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I agree