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[–]clownworlddropout 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

They're already saying race is a social construct, this is the next step.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Race is a social concept. Essentially. But not in the sense that "you can change the color of your skin" skin color is not a social construct obviously. But how societies choose to interpret what that skin color means, exactly where to draw the lines around "racial boundaries" those are determined by society.

I don't want to claim that race is a "spectrum" since it implies a dichotomy between "light and dark" or otherwise. There isn't a scale upon which we can measure race. But racial identity itself can be essentially subdivided into an infinite number of smaller races should society dean it necessary. A good example is that Hispanics are Arabs are considered a separate race despite being essentially very closely related. The same way Americans who visit Mexico have a tendency to freak out over white skinned Mexicans who can't speak English.

This trans race stuff though is more indicative of mental illness of course. Person is seeking external affirmation rather than simply accepting itself. You've seen it for years in a lesser sense of white dudes who dress like rappers. But well that's fashion and not race per say.

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    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    That's true. Black people can also get white skin somehow. Like Michael Jackson. Doesn't really change their race though. But well it's so wrapped up in culture and location as well the concept really isn't at all easily defined like sex is.

    The thing is it'd really dependent on perspective. You can go and find racial differences between say, Chinese and Japanese, Italians and Germans, and the like. But the Italians and Germans might be able to discriminate against each other while they'd see the Chinese and Japanese as being the same race and be unable to discriminate. Whereas the Chinese and Japanese would easily tell the difference between themselves but struggle to discriminate between various European people's.

    American racial politics just is really stupid since it's based on this pseudoscience based on judeo Christian idea that Noah's three sons sired the three races of the world. Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid. Which fits well into the European ideal of each of the three classical continents having it's own "race".

    You can of course point out that there is some underlying logic to this idea. But it begins to fall apart entirely under rigorous scientific vetting. The only real scientific biological "race" one can determine is that all humans are basically capable of interbreeding so there is no true speciation of homo sapiens in the present era. We are all homos.

    [–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me

    sorta a reverse of the famous "test case" Homer Plessy, who was a whopping one-eighth Black (explaining why he was laughed off the train the first time): he was someone who simply didn't EXIST in the laws' categories

    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I start to understand why people had negative attitudes towards interracial marriage in an era when the kids would indeed have to deal with that shit. Even if they don't have a problem with the concept itself it does seem like in a particularly prejudiced society that it's going to cause further problems.

    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Man reading that case it looks like Plessy plan backfired spectacularly. They had to have a private investigator arrest him. Then he fought it all the way to the supreme court and they decided segregation was fine and that stood for like 60 years. Damn

    Did he actually manage to accomplish anything good for black people with that stunt? It reminds me of the gay bakery shit going on today. I don't see how anything good comes forcing people to make shit they'd otherwise be unhappy with making in a world where we have options to shop elsewhere , but also it just is going to feed into backlashes against gay people in general based on the legal actions of a few. Seems very much counter to social harmony to me.

    [–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm Trans Martian.

    [–]Femaleisnthateful 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Sure, why not?

    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    We are a pound non-people of planet.

    [–]BellaBlue 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    I reject modernity, I identify as Neanderthaal.

    [–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    [–]BellaBlue 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Why is that dumb Sapien dressed so poorly for the climate?! 🤨😤

    [–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    they're not called H. sap for no reason!

    [–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Nuke from orbit.