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[–]Alienhunter糞大名[S] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Well again this is a blind appeal to authority. But it's the "I could cite this overwhelming scientific evidence that exists but.."

Nah go on cite it. Why not. I wanna hear what they say. Let's talk about that.

But nope personal anecdote of course.

"Instead, I want to share a conversation with my grandmother.

She is the most conservative woman I know, and when we discussed state-level bans on gender-affirming care for children, she disagreed with me. She said that these health care practices should be withheld from children because they can’t make a fateful decision such as that until they’re adults.

But I told her this basic fact: Letting trans children have access to essential health care like this is necessary to let them live a truth instead of a lie, reduce their risks for suicide and improve their sense of self-worth, their relationships with their families and their ability to see a future with themselves in it. She saw the necessity and agreed with me."

Hmm, did she? It sounds to me like you just said "nope you're wrong" and she dropped it to avoid a fight.

All this talk about truth and lies. Being your real self and all that. It's hogwash. But it gets away from the real core of the issue. It's that we don't actually know what the fuck this shit does to people. And there's no real telling what the long term suicide rates are like either. And I think that's where we need to be focusing on.

You just look at her story you see several phases.

"I prefer to play with the boys" ok that's fine some subset of girls prefer to play with the boys and vice versa.

"I decided to myself I really am a boy" Wanting to play with the boys and do "boy things" doesn't change the fact you are a girl.

"I came out and they wouldn't let me use the bathroom I belong in"

You don't have a penis you don't belong in the men's room. Yes the bathrooms are segregated based on genitals. Yes we are simplifying things to the genitals since that's where piss comes from and that's what you are supposed to do in the restroom. You can't even use half the toilets in the men's room. You'd probably whine about how urinals are transphobic or some shit.

"Other people didn't see me as a boy!"

Because you aren't, but also who cares? Why do you give a fuck about what other people think if you accept yourself? (Trick question you don't accept yourself).

"I need testosterone so other people accept me"

If they didn't accept you before testosterone won't make them accept you.

"Now I'm on testosterone and I feel great and don't feel like I want to disappear"

Yes male puberty is a bitch and it's why boys do dumb fucking shit for attention sometimes and you know roid rage and all that shit. Of course you feel great starting it. What's going to happen when the initial changes end your body accustoms to it and you no longer get that testosterone "high" so to speak. Will it result in long term happiness for you. Or will you start not feeling like yourself again?

Puberty is a bitch and I don't blame any girl for hating herself going through it, seems kinda normal to feel that way tbh. But I mean, that's life.

The same reason doctors hesitate to give mastectomies is because people do later regret youthful decisions. Even at 18 or 21 or 25 not everyone is always making decisions they are going to be happy with later. But the difference with these and normal adult decisions like contracts and shit is that the consequences are limited and often not permanent. If you get that mastectomy at 22 and then suddenly decide you really want kids around 35 or so. Well you can't. And it's not so uncommon as many of the 20 year old types complaining about how they can't get them think. You change as you get older.

You make a decision to change genders at 17. But you can't actually change. Are you going to be happy with that decision at 50?

I'm very curious what it is that she feels she gets by transitioning. Reading this it sounds like she has some kind of untreated mental health disorder that is making her depressed, and that she feels transitioning will "make others see her the way she wants to be seen" so it's like a body image thing? Probably. Or narcissism? Possible.

I knew one trans man in college (I assume I don't bother with prying into people's personal lives uninvited) and "he" looked more like a small boy and acted like someone with an inferiority complex. You know the type, like a really short guy that feels like he needs to put on a fake tough guy act to be respected. But he'd also throw an absolute fit from time to time. Happened in one class when we were discussing exactly this sort of issue. Just absolutely went bonkers at the very idea that there was any sort of sexual dimorphism and performance difference in sports. And that wasn't even touching the trans issue was just discussing muscle mass.