Genuinely asking where they’re getting this genocide shit from bc the amount of likes these ppl get whenever they talk abt it online is concerning.

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[–]alladd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think pharmaceuticals/psychiatry offers an easy explanation for things that are difficult and complicated, and convincing yourself that you're the problem for not taking enough of the right drugs is an easier pill to swallow than going "okay, I need to fundamentally change my relationship to the world, cut out toxic people, get a different job, probably move somewhere nicer, exercise and eat better, reinvest in my hobbies, try to make new friends..."

In the end both religion and SSRIs offer an alternative to the hard reality change that really needs to happen.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Seems fair to me. I see a lot of people who hit their bottom with drugs and bad lifestyles and the like find Jesus and manage to turn around I think it's a good thing overall, better than drugs I think overall but the similarly is there, they've found something that changes their pattern of thought and behavior and allowed them to improve themselves.

I think the main thing with Christianity here is it gives people a kind of escape from the mental spiral into depression when they realize that they are responsible for fucking up their own life and they could have not done that if only they were able but they don't understand why they are not. With Jesus basically they can blame their temptations on satan, some other, that's not them, the desires don't come from themselves, and they can mentally remove themselves from it and find the mental willpower, or say that Jesus has given it to them, to make a change for the better.

Whereas drugs kind of force the same changes in their patterns of thought chemically. A thought anyway. I've always noticed the late converts to religion always have a very different mindset towards it than people raised in ot.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But just think. About it. The elephant in the room no one wants to think about.

Where does this world come from, and why can't we leave?

I don't care too much for his supposed adherents nowadays, but this Jesus guy got too many things right for it to merely be bullshit. It is about the most anti-human and anti-world thing I have ever seen; even I hadn't even come close before (and I have yet to find anyone else who is moreso than I was; it's a long story but my situation revealed the evil nature of the world to me). Never before had I witnessed someone getting so many things right.

The funny thing is I was raised Christian and was never ever taught anything like this. At this point Christians more resemble the Pharisees, the religious fanatics who wanted and got Jesus brutally executed for "blasphemy".

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where does this world come from, and why can't we leave?

Lot's of worlds out there and they come from material condensing into to spheroid shapes via gravitational fields. You can't leave due to those same gravitational fields.

Or if you prefer the more esoteric answer, the origin of the universe is unknown. You can say god did it. You can argue that the original of the universe is an irrelevant question because we don't even understand how time is relevant from the point of view of the question "what happened before time". But regardless this is well outside the realm of human understanding, so it seems very much reasonable to believe in a divine origin, though that delves into philosophy rather than hard science.

The very nature of the supernatural is that if we could prove it's existence scientifically it would cease to be the supernatural. Science is the study of the natural. Naturwissenschaften as the Germans put it. The knowledge of the natural world.

You of course can leave the universe very easily. It's called death. We all do it eventually. As for what happens to "you" after that. Again that leaves the realm of the natural sciences as it is simply impossible to describe anything that happens outside the natural world with the laws of nature.