RACEBuckingham Palace race row - “victim” has serious financial irregularities at her charity.

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[–]Alienhunter糞大名 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

I stalked this up to "80 year old person doesn't know how to communicate with youth and gets uppity because young fucker is a cunt"

It's such a non-story. I've had plenty of old people bungle asking me "what is your ethnicity" by going "where you really from?" It's like whatever, as soon as I figure out what they are actually asking I just answer. This shit is like being ashamed of your ancestry, it's fucking self racism.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

I think the vast majority of people thought the same as you. I’m ambiguously brown and so have been asked “where are you from?” all my life and with the exception of the cunts that called me a Paki, I have never been offended.

What I think was deplorable was both the media coverage given to the story, the reaction of Buckingham Palace and PoW in particular and the fact that Ngozi has been given free reign to dictate the narrative, so I’m glad that someone with some accounting skills took a look at her charity commission filings.

[–]Datachost 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

She's not even a particularly good fake. Even before this thread there were people poking holes in her story/persona. There was a Ghanaian woman on twitter who pretty quickly pointed out that her name is ridiculous. Ngozi is an Igbo name (overwhelmingly Christian). Fulani is derived from the Fula tribe, who are almost entirely Muslim. Also there aren't going to be many Fulani actually called Fulani. How many English people do you know named English? Or Swiss named Schweizer?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Idk I've seen some weird as fuck English names man. Like Christian. You name your kid Christian? What are you going to name his siblings? Islam and Jew?

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Patience Xina, a British-West African Heterodox YouTuber, had a really quite good video breaking down the nonsense a day or so after it happened. She largely says what you’ve said.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Paki

Why is Paki so offensive? It's just short for Pakistani. Same goes for chink, jap, and nigger. They're not originally bad words, but eventually enough bad stereotypes get associated that the word gets forbidden, and that seems weird to me. How many words are we going to burn through? When will it ever be okay finally?

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Well, it’s the context isn’t it. Paki was used by racists to victimise immigrants from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh (and East Africa - as the largest single influx of Indians was actually British Indians fleeing Uganda and Kenya), “Paki-bashing” was a thing, having it screamed at you from passing cars and vans isn’t exactly a nice experience. In my experience it was screamed at me by the two kids who would beat me up every day at primary school, hard to argue it’s harmless when it is screamed in your face as a fist lands in your stomach.

So, you’ll find that most British people avoid the term, but as context is always key, if a foreigner were to use it as an abbreviation of Pakistani, it would just raise eyebrows here - and if they did it here they may be politely asked not to do so again.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In my experience it was screamed at me by the two kids who would beat me up every day at primary school, hard to argue it’s harmless when it is screamed in your face as a fist lands in your stomach.

Would other invectives be better? They scream Paki as they beat you, the word Paki gets banned, then they scream something else as they beat you, so we ban that word, and so on and so forth.

I am not a fan of policing language, I don't see where the benefit is.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Who’s policing language?

Now my favourite comedian, Jerry Sadowitz, regularly uses all those offensive words in his act and he’s both hilarious and successful. Another comedian, Daniel Kitson, has a show where the climax of the show is essentially “Pakiiiiiiii” and it is hilarious. So it always comes back to context.

Edit: changed “whose” to “who’s” because it was bugging the shit out of me.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whose policing language?

It's pretty endemic. Look around, we aren't at the ass end of the internet because we can freely say what we wish just anywhere, we're tapping out code in the airport bathroom, drawing forbidden fish in the dust, extending our index fingers in handshakes, and the possibility of persecution for what you say is real.

Jerry Sadowitz Daniel Kitson

That Jews can say whatever they want doesn't apply to the rest of us.

[–]wylanderuk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hell I thought it was just made up out of whole cloth myself, you have a long term lady in waiting who probably has dealt with a large number of actual African commonwealth dignitaries and might be good at placing people by name, dress and accent.

Her job is gather info and pass it on to avoid social fax pas and the seemingly weird walking collection of various African themes was confusing and needed clarification.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fair take. I'd not be inclined to believe the exchange was real myself but I've seen similar exchanges before. Older lady getting a bit testy with young black lady because she interprets the dodging of the question as sketchy while the younger black lady is just sitting there interpreting the question as hostility.

In reality both are assuming bad faith intentions from the other person which is the problem.

But yeah this lady seems to be LARPing at some artificially adopted identity so we can assume she's basically doing it to stir the pot and get attention.

I'm looking forward to our star trek post scarcity future where we use victim hood points as our new currency.

"Hello? How are you!"

"How dare you pry into my private business!"

"Do you have the time?"

"How dare you accuse me of being late!"

"Excuse me does this subway go to the airport"

"How dare you assume I'm from here just because of how I look!"

A pleasant bunch the raging cunts. Always a delight to speak too. Customer service agents absolutely love them and make sure they get the best service!

[–]wylanderuk 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A pleasant bunch the raging cunts. Always a delight to speak too. Customer service agents absolutely love them and make sure they get the best service!

Heh I used to work in phone based tech support and one of the lines was £1 a minute, generally I would try and get shit fixed as fast as I possibly could. But raging cunts would run to the "idiot tax" they would get the spiel at the beginning of the call about the cost per min and they wanted to spend 5 mins bitching about it then its not my fucking phone bill and if they wanted to argue for another 5 mins about the 30 second fix I knew the issue was then fuck em.