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[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

This past weekend Ngozi Fulani aka Marlene Headly aka Mary Headly (the founder of Sistah Space and fan of African cosplay) announced that she was ceasing operations at her domestic violence charity due to “online abuse and threats”. The truth might be somewhat more interesting as a Twitter sleuth has been searching through her financial filings to the Charity Commission and found serious irregularities, enough to prompt the auditors at the Greater London Assembly, who had granted her organisation tens of thousands of pounds in grants, to begin an audit.

All of this occurred but none of it was reported in the press, even the right wing press kept up the online abuse and threats narrative.

What this should precipitate is a thorough examination of the charity sector, and the lobbying that elected officials do on behalf of these organisations as Sistah Space enjoyed considerable help from Labour MPs, including Diane Abbot, and was engaged in a blackmail campaign against Hackney Council in order to get hold of funds set aside for DV services (despite it not being clear that they offered much in the way of services to DV victims).

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

I stalked this up to "80 year old person doesn't know how to communicate with youth and gets uppity because young fucker is a cunt"

It's such a non-story. I've had plenty of old people bungle asking me "what is your ethnicity" by going "where you really from?" It's like whatever, as soon as I figure out what they are actually asking I just answer. This shit is like being ashamed of your ancestry, it's fucking self racism.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

I think the vast majority of people thought the same as you. I’m ambiguously brown and so have been asked “where are you from?” all my life and with the exception of the cunts that called me a Paki, I have never been offended.

What I think was deplorable was both the media coverage given to the story, the reaction of Buckingham Palace and PoW in particular and the fact that Ngozi has been given free reign to dictate the narrative, so I’m glad that someone with some accounting skills took a look at her charity commission filings.

[–]Datachost 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

She's not even a particularly good fake. Even before this thread there were people poking holes in her story/persona. There was a Ghanaian woman on twitter who pretty quickly pointed out that her name is ridiculous. Ngozi is an Igbo name (overwhelmingly Christian). Fulani is derived from the Fula tribe, who are almost entirely Muslim. Also there aren't going to be many Fulani actually called Fulani. How many English people do you know named English? Or Swiss named Schweizer?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Idk I've seen some weird as fuck English names man. Like Christian. You name your kid Christian? What are you going to name his siblings? Islam and Jew?

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Patience Xina, a British-West African Heterodox YouTuber, had a really quite good video breaking down the nonsense a day or so after it happened. She largely says what you’ve said.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Paki

Why is Paki so offensive? It's just short for Pakistani. Same goes for chink, jap, and nigger. They're not originally bad words, but eventually enough bad stereotypes get associated that the word gets forbidden, and that seems weird to me. How many words are we going to burn through? When will it ever be okay finally?

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Well, it’s the context isn’t it. Paki was used by racists to victimise immigrants from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh (and East Africa - as the largest single influx of Indians was actually British Indians fleeing Uganda and Kenya), “Paki-bashing” was a thing, having it screamed at you from passing cars and vans isn’t exactly a nice experience. In my experience it was screamed at me by the two kids who would beat me up every day at primary school, hard to argue it’s harmless when it is screamed in your face as a fist lands in your stomach.

So, you’ll find that most British people avoid the term, but as context is always key, if a foreigner were to use it as an abbreviation of Pakistani, it would just raise eyebrows here - and if they did it here they may be politely asked not to do so again.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In my experience it was screamed at me by the two kids who would beat me up every day at primary school, hard to argue it’s harmless when it is screamed in your face as a fist lands in your stomach.

Would other invectives be better? They scream Paki as they beat you, the word Paki gets banned, then they scream something else as they beat you, so we ban that word, and so on and so forth.

I am not a fan of policing language, I don't see where the benefit is.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Who’s policing language?

Now my favourite comedian, Jerry Sadowitz, regularly uses all those offensive words in his act and he’s both hilarious and successful. Another comedian, Daniel Kitson, has a show where the climax of the show is essentially “Pakiiiiiiii” and it is hilarious. So it always comes back to context.

Edit: changed “whose” to “who’s” because it was bugging the shit out of me.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whose policing language?

It's pretty endemic. Look around, we aren't at the ass end of the internet because we can freely say what we wish just anywhere, we're tapping out code in the airport bathroom, drawing forbidden fish in the dust, extending our index fingers in handshakes, and the possibility of persecution for what you say is real.

Jerry Sadowitz Daniel Kitson

That Jews can say whatever they want doesn't apply to the rest of us.

[–]wylanderuk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hell I thought it was just made up out of whole cloth myself, you have a long term lady in waiting who probably has dealt with a large number of actual African commonwealth dignitaries and might be good at placing people by name, dress and accent.

Her job is gather info and pass it on to avoid social fax pas and the seemingly weird walking collection of various African themes was confusing and needed clarification.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fair take. I'd not be inclined to believe the exchange was real myself but I've seen similar exchanges before. Older lady getting a bit testy with young black lady because she interprets the dodging of the question as sketchy while the younger black lady is just sitting there interpreting the question as hostility.

In reality both are assuming bad faith intentions from the other person which is the problem.

But yeah this lady seems to be LARPing at some artificially adopted identity so we can assume she's basically doing it to stir the pot and get attention.

I'm looking forward to our star trek post scarcity future where we use victim hood points as our new currency.

"Hello? How are you!"

"How dare you pry into my private business!"

"Do you have the time?"

"How dare you accuse me of being late!"

"Excuse me does this subway go to the airport"

"How dare you assume I'm from here just because of how I look!"

A pleasant bunch the raging cunts. Always a delight to speak too. Customer service agents absolutely love them and make sure they get the best service!

[–]wylanderuk 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A pleasant bunch the raging cunts. Always a delight to speak too. Customer service agents absolutely love them and make sure they get the best service!

Heh I used to work in phone based tech support and one of the lines was £1 a minute, generally I would try and get shit fixed as fast as I possibly could. But raging cunts would run to the "idiot tax" they would get the spiel at the beginning of the call about the cost per min and they wanted to spend 5 mins bitching about it then its not my fucking phone bill and if they wanted to argue for another 5 mins about the 30 second fix I knew the issue was then fuck em.

[–]Datachost 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I'm a little disappointed that nobody has made a "Bizarre financial irregularities in your account/That money was just resting in my account" meme yet

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe the artisanal memewrights are preparing all the “That money was just resting in my account” memes for the EU Parliament corruption scandal that is currently unfolding 🤷🏽‍♂️

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I've done the accounts for a charity before now.

Most small charities don't have a proper accounts department, they just have the odd person help out in their spare time.

It's not uncommon for it to be a mess for years before they find someone to sort it out.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The issues with this one involve payments to family members and various dodgy dealings with donations and using blackmail to gain grants. It’s way beyond simple accounting errors.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Continuation of the twitter sleuth’s investigation

Ngozi has somehow managed to obtain a contract to provide “services” to the local NHS Trust (Homerton) - despite there being a distinct possibility that her “services” fall foul of equality legislation due to her stating that they are for black women only. Further suggestions that she utilised her powerful friends to lobby/bully her way to that contract.

[–]Datachost 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He both needs to make this a blog and get an editor to teach him to be more concise. If you need to do multiple 100 tweet long threads, twitter is not the platform for what you want to say

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, it’s getting tedious. But I think he’s doing it this way to tag the people like Diane Abbot, Lush, Charity Commission - but he could probably approach a paper, maybe one of the London locals at this point.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The story is finally being reported and the Charity Commission has opened an investigation. Fully expect it all to be brushed under the carpet though.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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