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[–]Datachost 24 insightful - 8 fun24 insightful - 7 fun25 insightful - 8 fun -  (10 children)

many survivors are queer and trans themselves

Damn, if only there were a word for adopting an identity after prolonged abuse by another person

[–]ClassroomPast6178 10 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 8 fun -  (9 children)

Grumbled? Goombah’d?

[–]Datachost 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

On what I'm sure is an entirely unrelated note she's actually trying to defend Balenciaga. That's a bold move, Cotton.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

What is it with you sending me to twitter hellscapes today!

[–]Datachost 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So many shit takes, so little time

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Interesting tidbit about that, actually. It seems that the company might not be the ones deserving the slings and arrows for this one, but rather the advertising company (North Six) that they hired to produce an ad campaign for them.

[–]Datachost 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, but there still has to have been someone at Balenciaga signing off on that shit. Fair enough, maybe the weird documents stuff genuinely went unnoticed by them, but surely they should have realised how bad the BDSM bears looked

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Unless they were handed a version that wasn't quite as risque, and someone did a bait and switch. Remember that bullshit about Janet Jackson's "accidental" half-time titty reveal? I'm not saying that's what happened here, but it has happened before.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's not how it works. These shoots cost a lot of money. Every detail is planned and signed off well in advance

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

that's when you grow up around/live with Italians but aren't technically one yourself

[–]Bonn1770 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gloomed. It's gloomed.

[–]cant_even 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

...because those 'survivors' were #BornThatWay; right, bitch?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No matter how we wish to approach it, it isn't a good look.

If people are 100% born queer and there is no fluidity or influence, then it means that queer people are more likely to be child molesters.

If it's not that then it means that being sexually abused as a child is more likely to make children queer, or confused.

The issue is that there's likely truth in both of these angles. The real question is why the fuck is she trying to defend child molesters? Is she suggesting that because the victims are gay that means that it was OK? That's disgusting.

[–]Newzok 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Queer just means you're a straight girl with a dumb haircut now. Which I predict would be more likely to happen from abuse.

[–]JerzyZulawski 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sometimes people who have been sexually abused transition as a way of opting out of their own sex. It's a dysfunctional trauma coping mechanism, a kind of protective shield. If you've been victimised or preyed on due to your female biology, transitioning to male is a very attractive idea. Some kids who are abused also try to gain weight and become obese so their abuser will no longer be attracted to them.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Associating the LGBTQ with groomers? How dare she!

[–]clownworlddropout 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

WTF does she think grooming is?

[–]OuroborosTheory 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

never fails that they make a beeline for THE most pervasive negative stereotypes, simply because they've made themselves incapable of SEEING it

it's like those "helpful" antiracism posters that said you can't expect Black people to show up on time, be educated, or speak your dialect, or those "punch a Nazi" Boomer spluttering that all those funny symbols in Kherson are "Hindu good luck symbols"

"I'm one of the GOOD guys, I CAN'T be like those chuds!"

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So queer and trans people are the result of sexual assault?

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think they have reckoned with it. Pretty sure that's the crux of their entire argument; that they see a correlation while queer advocates can't begin to even think about it.