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[–]ClassroomPast6178 32 insightful - 3 fun32 insightful - 2 fun33 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Funny how much power a marginalised minority seems capable of wielding when it suits them. It’s almost as if they’re not marginalised at all, and in fact have all the power and influence.

It’s a real life example of the old bully trope, “Why are you hitting yourself? Stop hitting yourself!” as they sit on your chest with vast majority of the media and government watching over their shoulder screeching “Yeah!”.

[–]Newzok 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah it's mighty suspicious. I might be facetious and say its because they're all programmers, but this is on another level. With this level of attacks you'd think they hosted CP or something, not a site where people point and laugh at the village idiot.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

hosted CP or something,

Considering how many of the featured players seem to be fixated on children transitioning under their "care and guidance," I'm pretty sure CP is involved somewhere, just not on KF's end of things. Roaches hate being in the light, you know?

[–]Newzok 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh fuckin dead on. What's with that? I'm assuming it's part of the fetish through wish fulfillment or something.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Cover for their fetish. If there are transgender children it legitimises their condition. When it was all middle-aged married men it looked suspiciously like it was either a paraphilia or mental illness. It’s why they hulk out when you mention AGP.

The fact that they’re willing to mutilate children as cover for their degeneracy is disgusting, the fact that they have convinced large portions of the media and political elite to go along with it is despicable.

[–]Newzok 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's insane and it does not suspend my disbelief that there appears to be full support for it all. It's a well funded and well connected media campaign.

[–]brimshaeBased Woodchipper Merchant 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Notice none of this really started until someone pointed out the Troonshine operation.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Shhh, noticing is verboten!

[–]alladd 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

ah yes, straight white men who love porn. doesn't get much more marginal.

[–][deleted] 28 insightful - 3 fun28 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Are you fucking kidding me? Holy shit, im amazed how much effort and connections troons are putting to take down such a small, barely relevant forum like Kiwifarms.

It's kinda hilarious.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

It’s the receipts. KF had all the evidence of their bad and illegal behaviours and everyone could see it. From Keffals and his bath tub hormones for children to all the rape threats. That’s why they persuaded the Internet Archive to delist KF too. It’s a gaslighting operation of immense proportions and the MSM fucking fell for it.

[–]Newzok 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I assume a pattern started to emerge with regards to their hijinks? I never really hung out there. But interesting...

[–]jet199 14 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

It's not like they have jobs or families to attend to.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 13 insightful - 7 fun13 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Well, troons have very fragile egos, even the mirror reflection can shatter it...

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well that's the reason why it's an easy target, it's small and barely relevant so lacks the power to really defend itself from a coordinated attack.

All in all they'll be wasting time and resources fighting Kiwi farms. Long term this is going to end up being irrelevant anyway as kiwifarms was doing what the internet always does, document shit that people put out in public. Them being gone won't change that a lot of this cringe and borderline criminal behavior is being posted online for all to see. Most simply do not.

The age old struggle goes like this, someone posts shit online, other people find that shit and laugh at it or criticize it, the first person claims harassment yet continues to put out stuff online. There is some real harassment that happens, but it's impossible to really stop that or tell who is doing it. The best strategy with this sort of thing is to collect information silently, without alerting the person in question, then once you've collected a significant amount and made backups, you then release it all at once as well as make calls to the proper authorities to take action. The Vanderbilt strategy if you will. Matt Walsh may be many things but in this case, his strategy is effective.

I remember in a completely unrelated case some guy in a group I was in was complaining constantly about harassment, apparently people were signing him up from free news letters and porn mags or whatever and whatnot, basically sending his address to every religious cult or marketing team with a "give us your address and we will send a pamphlet" stuff. Now in the first case, this guy was stupid enough to have his address publicly available for all to see online. Problem #1. But an understandable mistake from the internet disinclined. The real problem is that once this started happening, this dumbass made a lot of internet posts complaining about it, which let the trolls know that their harassment was working, and also caused the problem to become worse. I pointed this out and got a ban because apparently telling people how to stop from getting harassed constituted harassment. Oh well. Guess you can change your address, post your new address online again, and then act surprise when the problem didn't stop. "How did they know my new address?". Whaaat?

Kiwifarms like all the dredges of the internet will dredge up the trolls that cross the line beyond simply exercising free speech into harassment. But to call for their closure is like demanding the forest close down because people might do drugs in it.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Hmm, I see now.

Thanks for explaining.

[–]brimshaeBased Woodchipper Merchant 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just remember: If Kiwi Farms goes down then the database gets loaded in to a torrent where it won't ever go away.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

at this point I'd just do it anyway, strew their petty bullcrap for all the world to see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQXa2S60BUE

[–]alladd 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they really need to have a full backup on a site with a completely different name just in case.

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    [–]Datachost 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    None of the suicide allegations against KF have enough to them to actually stick. Shit, the most commonly given example might not even be dead.

    [–]Wanderingthehalls 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    And the type of harassment and pile ons that happens to far more people on Twitter are significantly more vicious and more public than anything that happens on kiwi farms. If we were going to blame any one website for causing people to commit suicide, which we shouldn't because suicide isn't monocausal, it would be Twitter.

    [–]Datachost 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    They're really going to try every angle to make sure their dirty laundry isn't aired, aren't they?

    [–]RippoffOfLove 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    This is not the way the internet is meant to be.

    [–]Datachost 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    It's reached the point where the internet is a public good just like water or electricity. It's become that crucial to living in the modern world. You wouldn't accept someone having their water or electricity cut due to their views (though I'm sure some would), the same should apply to the internet.

    [–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Mmmmm, I do love the putrid scent of hypocrisy wafting up from the attempts to bury KF. Because all of the people so gleefully shoveling on the dirt screamed in outrage when it looked Ajit Pai was going to give the go-ahead to ISPs to throttle content at their discretion. Everyone was crying about their freeze peach and suppression of information and opinions, and how it would signal the death of freedom on the Internet (and it was also one the many, many reasons why Trump was living permanently in their heads).

    But, yet again, they demonstrate that it's not the control itself that they object to, only that it's not their control.

    [–]handbananasrevenge 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    The crybullies are at it again.

    [–]Femaleisnthateful 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Funny, I was just wondering last night what happened to KiwiFarms.

    [–]alladd 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    It'll be back. Honestly every time they do this they drive traffic to KF. I only went there to see what was up after everyone bragged about getting it shut down the first time. Feels like a kind of tipping point in the public conscience, if only a small one. They can't stop it.

    [–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Honestly every time they do this they drive traffic to KF

    It's the only time I really care what's going on with KF. I'm glad someone is acting as a watchdog for these internet lolcows, but that's not my cup of tea.

    [–]alladd 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    mine either. i saw from a few minutes scanning the forums that it's a fairly miserable place. but they're the only ones keeping receipts apart from like...mumsnet, maybe.

    [–]OuroborosTheory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    this feels like Zim throwing one rubber pig after another through the time portal while Dib gets more powerful and ... more slower ...

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

    u/clownowski homeless again

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    :o(

    Yeah....

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    u/dramasexual probably knows something

    [–]dramasexual 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    😈

    [–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Drop the new onion link chud