If the majority of trans people know that the surgical penis/vagina is nothing like a biological one,why are 97% happy with getting surgery then?

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[–]Datachost 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

For the absolute richest of the rich it goes a step beyond that and gets into transhumanism. The idea of transcending the body, by being able to alter it at will. It's modern day Skoptsy

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Transhumanism is a topic that we really don't see covered here enough. There's loads of crazy stuff on that front. Seems to take root in the entertainment industry guess cause there's loads of money to chase and a lot of idealists that are good at coming up with ideas but not so good at figuring out how they would work.

People still pay loads of money to have their corpses frozen in the vein hopes that future science will revive them. Then there's been the whole "in 50 years they'll have figured out how to reverse aging" grifts as well.

I think ultimately it all comes down to an unwillingness to be at peace with ones own physical limitations, namely, mortality.

[–]Datachost 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's all ego at the end of the day. The belief that somehow you're rich enough, powerful enough, smart enough to change the fact you're just the same as everyone else when it comes to having an expiration date. For a series that started off as monster of the week and never really had it as a central theme, Person of Interest's last season managed to tackle mortality & transhumanism fairly well

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSNXBvpLb9o&t=160s

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Honestly, I've got a crazy conspiracy theory to cover this:

Transhumanism used to be all the rage there for awhile, right? Cyborgs, brain implants, all that noise? Well, the modern "you own nothing, everything is now a subscription service" idea kinda killed that, because who's going to pay to have an arm "upgraded" when doing so means having to pay rent on a part of your body for the rest of your life?

Enter the transgenders. Convince children they were "born wrong" when either they're young and impressionable or going through changes that literally everyone has gone through that make them uncomfortable in their own body for a couple of years before everything starts working right, then sell them a "fix."

Now, when you've convinced a child to get rid of their stock genitals before they're old enough to even have any idea what genitals do? Once puberty kicks in, they'll pay you literally anything just for you to digitally unlock their junk and let them use it.

Even a young impressionable child knows what an arm or a leg does, but if you convince them to cut off their baby-making bits and rent a new set from you, they're thinking "well, if it makes me feel better to have the custom one installed, then what do I have to lose? It's not like I'm all that interested in making babies, anyways, and if I change my mind, I'll only need to pay them once or twice to make the baby, then never again, so it's win-win"

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think it's more a case of simple economics driving it. What makes doctors more money? Therapy and or telling the kids to accept themselves as they are? Or medical transition requiring a lifetime of medications surgeries and follow up procedures.

Even if most doctors are moral and not driven solely by blind profit margins, some are, and they'll be successful as scam artists and snake oil salesmen always have been. I mean just look at the opioid epidemic. Turn on the TV and look at the adds for prescription medication. And challenge yourself to find them in the doctors offices as well where they are a bit more subtle. It's all about the money.

[–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's not all that different from what I'm saying. In fact, what I suggested is just taking what you said to the next level

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True but I don't think they are thinking that far ahead. Short term quarterly gains and then retire before the shit hits the fan.