From a Disney cartoon (shocking, I know…), The Owl House… This really showcases the consequences of Steven Universe. Cartoons like these aren’t actually made for kids. They’re made for man-children who constantly demand for “validation”.

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[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think the factor here is that the classics were made for both adult and child audiences at once: Bugs and (later) the Flintstones spoke to both age groups at the same time, instead of slipping an in-joke for the parents into something otherwise "made for kids"; after Moose and Squirrel the 70s saw a Dark Age, and the 80s were all merch and franchises

I think the only classic-style animation then was Roger Rabbi, and that brings us into the 90s and 00s, which are very different from the post-2014--they DID take on weighty issues, but did so much more subtly and effectively (I do have to note that I don't actually object to most of the current depictions, but when you put them all TOGETHER ...)

I think the same thing happened with "YA": you can come back to Norton Juster, Wilson Rawls, John Bellairs, Baum, Cleary, etc. as an adult; is anyone gonna have fond memories two decades later of Princess Told She Can't Fight But Kicks Butt #27, Prince Finds Prince #43, or Planned Parenthood Fundraiser #2?; I mean go to B&N and the covers are all literally the same in the YA section ...

and yeah all the focus on labels first is making everything oddly un-libidinous: "this is Xyler, they're aroace but regularly sticks Tab A into Slot B," that's such a DRAINING sentence I wrote, isn't it? it's the same how Gen Z's 40% enobyqueer but when asked "do you want to change your sex?" or "do you want to boink someone of the same sex?" the numbers are the same as always

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Can't say I know shit about YA stuff. Basically have never read it. Had it pushed on me in school as that "reading is cool" crap and it largely turned me off wanting to read in general. Was an avid reader before that but was reading stuff way above my "academic level". Kept getting shit for using archaic terminology. Got punished once for calling a door knob queer because I assumed (correctly I might add) that the word meant "strange and unusual but not in a bad way" and the doorknob was incredibly gay.

I might just go down to the bookstore again and take a gander at what they are selling. Though I tend to glaze over at whatever the popular shit is.

YA has always just seemed like a garbage genre to me. Does Harry Potter count? Because I think it fits the mold. I walked out or the first movie and never saw any others cause of all that "yer za chozen won harry!, Yer za best at everything and everyone wanna be your friend and you won sport you never play before and are the best ever" BS.

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"YA" is a very new genre that absorbed some middle-school-level fiction (Rowling, Pullman) but really became its own branch in the 10s, so you have a whole cohort of newcomers who can fixate on ableism in YA book covers and have constant catfights tearing one another down

it's the opposite of romance, where if you pick up Deconverting the Mormon Widower, you're going to GET an LDS widower being deconverted, by gum