you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]ID10T 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

This is a great top comment:

"Here's a thought: raise all kids as non-binary. Get rid of all gender roles in childhood. Make childhood completely gender-free. Gender roles are a prison. If we didn't force our kids into that prison, then they wouldn't feel like they have to permanently change their bodies and possibly damage their health in order to escape, and predatory doctors wouldn't profit from their misery."

One of the huge problems I see with the trans ideology is that it's so regressive - categorizing behavior, dress, and looks as gendered. Second wave feminists fought to allow women to take up male occupations, wear pants, play sports, etc. It used to be progressive to allow boys to do stereotypical girly stuff and girls to do stereotypical boyish stuff without judgement. Now it's "you must be trans, let's get you on hormone blockers." Fucking ridiculous. Not to mention the fact that no child is comfortable with their body when they enter puberty. It sucks for everyone. Blocking puberty and natural development is child abuse, straight up.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Here's a thought, just don't give a fuck about any of this shit. Let the kids be themselves. Don't confuse them with non-binary bullshit. Kids will naturally just gravitate towards standard gender rolls anyway if left alone. Some exceptions will be had but who cares if a girl wants to play with the "boys toys" or a boy wants to play with the "girls toys" just let them be. All this identity shit is regressive as fuck. You are you. Your sex cannot be changed, who cares? Kids will identify as a T-Rex or a cat or something and if you come in and claim they are furries because of it, you're probably a pedophile trying to push your fetish on the kids. This shit is no different.

[–]ID10T 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree

[–]FlyingKangaroo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Agree. I want to hope the person who wrote that referenced comment was clueless with the term “non-binary” but still... This is still shit to claim that a casual way of raising children, letting them play with what they want is “non-binary”. My mother never pushed me to like the overt the top girly things, I had many dolls but I also liked “boyish” toys, dinosaurs, toy soldiers. I didn’t care much for early versions of plays with makeup, etc. just what I found interesting back then. And somehow I grew up to be a woman who doesn’t base her value on what society or some stupid groups want to see women as. Almost as if the problem of the modern rise of transness in young people is not only linked to trauma and discomfort with the body but also social contagions, self esteem issues and the false belief that a new identity (and in many cases, a new body) will guarantee a perfect life.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's this whole confusion between "gender identify" and "personality"

Everyone's personality is different. Doesn't mean you're "Quick to anger-gender" or "cries too much during sad movies-gender" or "doesn't want to share toys-gender".

Kids don't have a gender identity. That doesn't mean they are "non-binary" it just means they are a normal kid. Hell most adults don't even have a "gender identity" whatever the fuck it is.

Even the whole idea of choosing your identity is kinda stupid. Gender or not. Sure I can choose to identify as a "brave and fearless" and while it's probably arguably a good thing to build yourself a positive self-identity, if you run away and cry at the first sign of stress nobody is gonna accept your self-identity of "brave and fearless". You can lie to yourself of course. But your identity is just as much shaped by others opinions of you than anything else.

It's just so bizzare that we are even concerned about this shit. A small child doesn't have any idea of what gender or sex even is really beyond a basic understanding that boys and girls are different. That's why kids get confused when other kids bully them for cross dressing. A toddler sees the dress up clothes as colorful costumes and not a gender identity. So they don't understand why they are being bullied for it. But a toddler also sees the road as a fun place where cars go zoom zoom and is traumatized and doesn't understand why mommy is screaming at them for running out into it. They're kids they're stupid cause they don't know better yet. But goddamn the unforgivable part is the stupid adults that should know better. Are we so goddamn blind to all this? How many historical cases do we need to through where some mentally ill parent, usually a woman hates men and forces their son to live as a girl. It fucks with the kids minds. It's far from uncommon it's been happening for ages but only recently have we gone, oh yeah that's totally a good thing. Sheer madness.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Literally there was a big change in toys and kids clothes 20 years ago to put everything into blue and pink categories because that makes stores more money.

We said at the time this will be a disaster for gender non conflict kids who will feel like they can't be proper boys/girls and it's all come true.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The fact how many of these people threat puberty as some evil inflicted upon suffering teenagers, biological disaster and are willing to block the natural development of their bodies with the transition process... This is super creepy. They fear puberty as if it was some way of mutilation and treat their mutilations as if they’re difficult sometimes but mostly okay.

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Simone De Beauvoir, the most influential second wave feminist that inspired an entire generation of women to stop shaving their legs, wrote in her masterpiece The Second Sex "One is not born, but becomes a woman." https://youtu.be/1KVCUubgYI0 This has become the rallying cry of the entire trans ideological movement, and it's all because of a feminist.

If the name sounds familiar it's because she was the lover of Jean-Paul Sartre, and she would groom young girls from her high school classes so that Sartre could sexually assault them. Yeah, she pretty much had to write that strength comes from devotion because otherwise she couldn't mindfuck victims into compliance.

"They lived out their freedom in an open relationship, which included seducing, sharing and discarding young women, among them de Beauvoir's high-school students. This ill accords with her liberating feminist philosophy and fiction, and her acerbic analysis of how women are looked at and objectified, restricted to being the "other". Today we call the behavior of the revered existentialist couple "grooming".

[–]FlyingKangaroo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And of course she and Sartre (among others) signed this infamous petition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws