you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What a crock of shit.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

... because ... ?

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Well, for one thing that's not a study with an experiment or sources, it's just an articulation of the official "party line." And it's coming from an organization that wants to sell us goods and services. I've seen paid ads from the Mayo Clinic trying to sell disgusting crap like "gynecological services for trans men."

Beyond that, the claim made is so lukewarm that it's meaningless. "Adolescents and adults with gender dysphoria without gender-affirming treatment might be at risk of thinking about or attempting suicide" - yeah, and I "might be" Joe Montana. Hey, he's not dead and he probably has internet, right?

I know the whole suicide thing is being used as a cudgel to get parents on board with the idea of sexually mutilating their kids. "Let your 'AMAB' child take titty-making pills or, well, guess 'she' will just kill 'herself.'" Try it on me and I'll call your bluff. Or maybe I'll just punch you in the nose.

You people should be driven into the sea for this.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well, for one thing that's not a study with an experiment or sources, it's just an articulation of the official "party line."

A single study might be misleading or not. This is the position of the Mayo Clinic. They don't have a party line.

I've seen paid ads from the Mayo Clinic trying to sell disgusting crap like "gynecological services for trans men."

If that disgusts you, don't buy it. But if you wan't people who want those services to stop using them, you should get over yourself and stay in your lane.

yeah, and I "might be" Joe Montana. Hey, he's not dead and he probably has internet, right?

In the medical sense they mean that some of the adolescents and adults with gender dysphoria without gender-affirming treatment will be at increased risk of thinking about or attempting suicide, but not all of them.

I know the whole suicide thing is being used as a cudgel to get parents on board with the idea of sexually mutilating their kids.

No one is sexually mutilating kids ... except religious people doing circumcisions.

And they should be driven into the sea for that.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

some of the adolescents and adults with gender dysphoria without gender-affirming treatment will be at increased risk of thinking about or attempting suicide, but not all of them.

That's equally meaningless. How much is "some"? My take is that "some" means "fewer than are driven to suicide by so-called 'gender-affirming care'." I don't have any data on that, but I've shown you what a meaningful statement looks like. The Mayo Clinic doesn't have the data to support their claim, either, or they would make their own meaningful statement on the matter.

A single study might be misleading or not. This is the position of the Mayo Clinic. They don't have a party line.

WTF do you even think a party line is that is different from a position?

If that disgusts you, don't buy it.

"Disgusting" is an objective quality, not a personal preference.

No one is sexually mutilating kids ... except religious people doing circumcisions.

This is just neckbeardy as fuck. Circumcision didn't turn me into an objectionable public spectacle. Didn't do much of anything.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wanted to let you know that i read this.

I didn't think you raised any new points that aren't prima facie wrong.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Que ridículo.