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[–]loubag1997 29 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 2 fun -  (82 children)

I feel bad that someone committed suicide, but the answer to his issues was not to pretend he was a woman. I wish he would've gotten the REAL help he needed, not the flowery lies people get nowadays.

[–]clownworlddropout 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I warned a fella on Reddit not to go down this path, that he was obviously troubled and needed help but that the "help" these people offer isn't it. Got my IP blocked on Reddit for that.

[–]FourteenDigitz 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Are you sure it’s IP? Might just be hardware.

[–]clownworlddropout 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Could be, I'll check it out.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What do you mean "hardware"? I don't think reddit can see your Mac address or anything like that.

[–]FourteenDigitz 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m not sure if it’s the same on Macs — though I assume it must be — but Windows computers have their serial numbers stored digitally on the OS, and hardware bans detect and block that serial number

[–]Datachost 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

not the flowery lies people get nowadays.

I saw a screenshot from a Reddit thread ran through Reveddit today (allowing you to see deleted comments and whether they were deleted by the commenter or a mod). The thread was an obvious male, posting a picture asking when he should tell his date he's trans. The deleted comments (something like 18 out of 90, so about a fifth of the thread) were all deleted by the mod and all said some variation of "You probably won't have to tell him, if he has eyes". Building up that kind of echo chamber is unhealthy.

[–]beerghal[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah the thread was real weird in the case of this trans that killed himself. All the downvoted comments were like "omg mental health problems are so common in the trans community. They really need our support". It was like they couldn't handle the mere mention of associating mental health with being trans

[–]LtGreenCo 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

omg mental health problems are so common in the trans community

That's like saying wetness is common in the goldfish community

[–]alladd 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

somewhere under all the fake concern is the deepest kind of disgust at people. the kind that makes them encourage the worst behaviors just to see the disaster it leads to.

[–]FourteenDigitz 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They refer to that as “clocking”, because using the evidence of your eyes and ears is also bigotry apparently.

GEORGE ORWELL INTENSIFIES

[–]beerghal[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

100%. This was probably a conufsed and vulnerable person that was taken advantage of

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (70 children)

I feel bad that someone committed suicide, but the answer to his issues was not to pretend he was a woman.

Quite the opposite. It is the absence of gender affirming treatments that is associated with suicide in people with gender dysphoria.

Adolescents and adults with gender dysphoria without gender-affirming treatment might be at risk of thinking about or attempting suicide. - https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/symptoms-causes/syc-20475255

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (35 children)

It is the absence of gender affirming treatments that is associated with suicide in people with gender dysphoria.

That study has been called into question.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

It's not a study, it's the modern medical position of the mayo clinic based on all the research so far.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (33 children)

The studies said antidepressants worked too. Gee, who would have figured the researchers at gender clinics didn't find their actions to be harmful. The fact is most of these trans identifying kids are obviously not trans, they're influenced by a social media fad and bad medical advice. Trooning out isn't going to help them.

[–]notafed 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I forgot, what's the count of people suing the Tavistock Clinic because they now regret their transitions and claim that they were basically rubber stamped into the procedures?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Oh wow, I didn't even hear about that. 1000 families! Holy shit, that's a lot of mutilation! I feel like this is more than severe than a civil matter.

[–]Newzok 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah once you I saw the number I kind of zoned out. That's a lot of people who have been... Altered...

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

It's not a study. It's the medical reality, based on all our current knowledge.

The fact is most of these trans identifying kids are obviously not trans, they're influenced by a social media fad and bad medical advice.

1) Most of which trans identifying kids.

2) Elaborate on "obviously"

3) Don't make shit up, link to the evidence.

4) What is "trooning out"

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

It's not a study. It's the medical reality, based on all our current knowledge.

It's an agenda being pushed that warps science to fit its facts. We keep seeing it time and time again. Atypical antipsychotics, cox-2 inhibitors, and recently the covid vaccine were all bad bills of goods sold to us. There's a pattern here.

Don't make shit up, link to the evidence.

Go check out r/detrans for starters. I speak from personal experience though, I initially supported transgenderism until my niece started dating a pretend man, then her other friends started identifying as trans. The pretend man was obviously a girl. That means there wasn't a single masculine thing about her. She bound her breasts and peed in the wrong restroom. What a brave, brave man. We spent a lot of time with her, even went on family vacations together. It's ridiculous to humor her that she's a man. And the idea this is helping her in any form is ridiculous.

"trooning out"

It's when a person makes the transition from an autistic fag to a tranny.

Gender dysphoria is real, my friend u/Vulptex is pretty good proof of that, but even he doesn't like trannies. And these kids who make up the bulk of this movement, are just uncomfortable about puberty and confused. Many are autistic. Many believe transitioning will fix their anxiety or depression.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know of very few troons who are actually gay. They're all "lesbians" or obsessed with yaoi.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

It's an agenda being pushed that warps science to fit its facts

No, it's just what he know about gender dysphoria. Nothing's being pushed.

Go check out r/detrans for starters.

No, I mean your specific claims. You've said "The fact is most of these trans identifying kids are obviously not trans, they're influenced by a social media fad and bad medical advice." What evidence do you have to support that, and what proportion do you mean by "most"?

It's when a person makes the transition from an autistic fag to a tranny.

Okay, what is an "autistic fag"?

Do you include transvestites in the term "tranny"?

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Most of those kids end up detransing, and there's way too many of them (trans people are a tiny minority of the population). It comes from its current trendiness, and schools pressuring them to transition if they don't fit a stereotype. What they're really trying to do is recruit people for something corrupt politicians have hijacked and made into a political statement. Why do you think right-wing Christians hate LGBT people so much? It's because in 99% of cases it no longer has anything to do with being lesbian, gay, bisexual or trans (why that's even included among sexualities I don't know), it's become more of a statement that you align with radical leftist agendas and also that you hate Christianity. Most of the people who hate them used to support them, until they were made into this sort of identity politics.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Most of those kids end up detransing, and there's way too many of them (trans people are a tiny minority of the population).

I think you're mistaken about that "most of these kids" statistic. Certainly trans people are a tiny minority of the population. Maybe 0.7% of the population.

Still. There's about 1.4 million in the US alone, so you shouldn't be shocked to meet one, and certainly not to see a photo of one on reddit.

It comes from its current trendiness, and schools pressuring them to transition if they don't fit a stereotype.

That's very difficult to believe.

What they're really trying to do is recruit people for something corrupt politicians have hijacked and made into a political statement.

Batshit crazy grand conspiracy theories are even more difficult to believe.

Why do you think right-wing Christians hate LGBT people so much?

Studies show that Christians are more hateful to any out-group than atheists. Maybe it's fear of the devil in things they aren't familiar with.

Most of the people who hate them used to support them, until they were made into this sort of identity politics.

This, too, is very difficult to believe.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's def pushed.

https://segm.org/GIDS-puberty-blockers-minors-the-times-special-report

Entwistle was astonished when her clinical partner cited a female patient’s early love of Thomas the Tank Engine as evidence she should be referred to endocrinology. “This girl was horribly bullied and called a ‘dyke’,” she says. “It blew my mind that a toy was used as evidence for medical transition. My partner said, ‘Oh, but she hates her periods.’ I said, ‘But so do many girls.’ ” This patient was not referred and later, at sixth form where she ceased being bullied, told GIDS her dysphoria was resolved. “Yet she could easily have been put on a medical pathway,” says Entwistle

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

SEGM have an agenda.

I don't know anything about the anecdote in question, but it's an anecdote. It's neither data nor policy.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

No, it's just what he know about gender dysphoria. Nothing's being pushed.

I'm telling you it's bullshit, like the other bullshit narratives I mentioned. Come on man, develop your critical thinking. Don't trust the official bullshit, it's hurting kids.

what proportion do you mean by "most"?

It's defined as "greatest in number."

Do you include transvestites in the term "tranny"?

It's just a negative term. Celebrating deviancy is not a fantastic idea, that's how we end up with kids aspiring to adopt identities they do not actually have.

Okay, what is an "autistic fag"?

It's literally what it sounds like. Autism + homosexuality. Read r/detrans, see what your bullshit is causing.

What evidence do you have to support that,

My thinking comes from my niece and her friend group and her experiences with the overall student body and then overall interactions online. You can call that a sample group. These are my conclusions from observing their behavior. You can read whatever you want and say, look this article says this so it must be true, but I can't ignore what's right in front of me.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I'm telling you it's bullshit, like the other bullshit narratives I mentioned.

I'll take on board that that's your opinion.

But the evidence is that you're wrong about that.

It's defined as "greatest in number."

And in this case, what is that number?

It's just a negative term. Celebrating deviancy is not a fantastic idea, that's how we end up with kids aspiring to adopt identities they do not actually have.

Suspect you're wrong about that causes of transexualism.

It's literally what it sounds like. Autism + homosexuality. R

Would you consider yourself and autistic fag?

These are my conclusions from observing their behavior.

I question your ability to make sound conclusions from your observations.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Nope, suicide rates increase after transition and more so after surgery.

No point linking to an article written by lobby groups, look at the actual research.

https://segm.org/ajp_correction_2020

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

[–]alladd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

because it doesn't fix the narcissism that creates their delusion. so the second they experience any kind of hard self-reflection and realize how far they've gone, their ego will be so damaged that they are provoked to suicide.

most people who attempt suicide can at least walk back or reverse some of their issues with time. but you can't undo mutilation.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It can go both ways. It's because they realize their last hope was a false one.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also partly not to do with transition at all.

Most trans people have a personality disorder and they have very high suicide rates. BPD is 20% die by suicide.

[–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's actually quite sad. Some people are clearly genuine and being sold a lie about how this will make them a woman. Then the reality hits. It's really irresponsible by the medical practises.

[–]alladd 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

it's just narcissism. wanting to be the main character + exposure to sex from the internet or whatever = wanting to be the bestest sex object ever and tying all your pride and self-worth to being a pervert.

transitioning feeds the ego for a little while, but the delusion needs more and more to maintain itself, often in the form of compelled speech or increasingly extreme behaviors. if that momentum is interrupted, and the person has a moment of self-reflection, suicide is not far off. you can only lie to yourself for so long.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I don't think that's what narcissism is.

People with NPD aren't transexual.

[–]alladd 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

yes they are. NPD and BPD are the most common comorbidities found in trans patients.

but you said yourself you don't know what narcissism is. so maybe you don't know what i'm talking about.

narcissism is main character syndrome. in practice it manifests as lack of empathy, selfishness, and a preternatural entitlement to one's chosen "story". for some narcissists, this means being treated as famous. for some, it's being treated as an object of desire.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

yes they are. NPD and BPD are the most common comorbidities found in trans patients.

Are you making this up?

Among TGNC adolescents, depressive disorders were most common (transfeminine 49%; transmasculine 62%) compared with other diagnostic categories.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084367/

an overall prevalence of PDs of 52% was found, with 22% prevalence of Cluster B PDs (with narcissistic PD showing the highest prevalence in the overall sample)

your linked study doesn't appear to have studied for NPD or doesn't differentiate between it and "personality disorders" in general.

also narcissism is hard to detect and narcissists don't self-report it, so in lieu of a more critical approach i could see it being grouped under "depressive disorder".

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

also narcissism is hard to detect and narcissists don't self-report it, so in lieu of a more critical approach i could see it being grouped under "depressive disorder".

I couldn't. There are diagnostic criteria.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

the prevalence of comorbid NPD is well documented elsewhere and widely acknowledged among trans communities.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Just not as prevalent as depression.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

And then the treatments barely work and they still commit suicide. There is no escape.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Quite the opposite. Hormone therapy and social transition generally resolves suicidal ideation, as well as other mental health issues.

"Transgender young people often present with severe depression, anxiety, and even suicidal ideation related to their gender dysphoria. Although some clinicians might consider these diagnoses as a contraindication for a major medical procedure such as hormone therapy, frequently their symptoms are significantly alleviated by social and physical transition. Even major psychiatric disorders such as major depressive disorder and bipolar disorder are frequently “cured” when gender identity issues are addressed." - https://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/home/topics/gender-dysphoria/is-it-just-a-phase-what-to-do-when-transgender-youths-ask-to-transition/

(Reference at the linked site)

[–]jacques1102 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And does that make it morally right?Why is it that when it comes to other mental illness that the cure is for the person to seek psychological help and not play into their delusion?I know a person that was obsessed with pokemon and was depressed about the fact that he wasn't born into the world.You know what made them happy?Making them a character and then deluding them into believing that they were apart of the world.Does that make it morally right even though the person was happy believing in his delusion?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I would say that stopping them being unhappy and in particular, killing themselves it does make it morally better.

It also implies that its not a delusion. If the treatment is works, it's likely that the diagnosis is correct. Delusions aren't a symptom of gender dysphoria.

I don't know how the pokemon disorder is best treated. It's unlikely to be related to gender dysphoria, so plausibly the best treatments would be unrelated.

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"It also implies that it's not a delusion".How does believing that you're the opposite sex despite the obvious evidence to the contrary not a delusion?The entire brain argument falls apart when nobody can define what a female brain is.Does it make you more likely to be into feminine things?If so then what about tomboys who never show any gender dysphoria?Are they trans in denial?Or does it show something else?Can you give an answer that doesn't resort to gender stereotypes?This is where i feel trans activist are trapped cause they can't do that,but then act like said stereotypes shouldn't define someone's womanhood.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How does believing that you're the opposite sex despite the obvious evidence to the contrary not a delusion?

There's lots of aspects to a person's sex. There's genitalia, which can be indeterminate. But the brain also different between men and women. When that's also indeterminate, or opposite to the genitalia, then you have a problem that can be diagnosed and treated. If you treat it with gender affirmation, you get much better outcomes, and you usually alleviate other psychiatric disorders that might be present.

The entire brain argument falls apart when nobody can define what a female brain is.

We know what a female brain does. So the test is to ask the patient. You certainly have to do it over a period of time, and look for consistency.

If so then what about tomboys who never show any gender dysphoria?Are they trans in denial?

No.

Can you give an answer that doesn't resort to gender stereotypes?

Again, the diagnosis is established by talking to the patient.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hormones and surgeries might work okay if you're FtM and don't have major problems with your genitals. Otherwise you're fucked because once you're male there's really no way to go back to female. If you're extremely lucky you can disguise yourself to look like it but that won't fix you on the inside.

What we really need is a way to prevent this, and for those already afflicted only very extreme treatments could work, like changing their gender or putting them in a different body.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jazz Jennings must be an outlier

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What a crock of shit.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

... because ... ?

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Well, for one thing that's not a study with an experiment or sources, it's just an articulation of the official "party line." And it's coming from an organization that wants to sell us goods and services. I've seen paid ads from the Mayo Clinic trying to sell disgusting crap like "gynecological services for trans men."

Beyond that, the claim made is so lukewarm that it's meaningless. "Adolescents and adults with gender dysphoria without gender-affirming treatment might be at risk of thinking about or attempting suicide" - yeah, and I "might be" Joe Montana. Hey, he's not dead and he probably has internet, right?

I know the whole suicide thing is being used as a cudgel to get parents on board with the idea of sexually mutilating their kids. "Let your 'AMAB' child take titty-making pills or, well, guess 'she' will just kill 'herself.'" Try it on me and I'll call your bluff. Or maybe I'll just punch you in the nose.

You people should be driven into the sea for this.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well, for one thing that's not a study with an experiment or sources, it's just an articulation of the official "party line."

A single study might be misleading or not. This is the position of the Mayo Clinic. They don't have a party line.

I've seen paid ads from the Mayo Clinic trying to sell disgusting crap like "gynecological services for trans men."

If that disgusts you, don't buy it. But if you wan't people who want those services to stop using them, you should get over yourself and stay in your lane.

yeah, and I "might be" Joe Montana. Hey, he's not dead and he probably has internet, right?

In the medical sense they mean that some of the adolescents and adults with gender dysphoria without gender-affirming treatment will be at increased risk of thinking about or attempting suicide, but not all of them.

I know the whole suicide thing is being used as a cudgel to get parents on board with the idea of sexually mutilating their kids.

No one is sexually mutilating kids ... except religious people doing circumcisions.

And they should be driven into the sea for that.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

some of the adolescents and adults with gender dysphoria without gender-affirming treatment will be at increased risk of thinking about or attempting suicide, but not all of them.

That's equally meaningless. How much is "some"? My take is that "some" means "fewer than are driven to suicide by so-called 'gender-affirming care'." I don't have any data on that, but I've shown you what a meaningful statement looks like. The Mayo Clinic doesn't have the data to support their claim, either, or they would make their own meaningful statement on the matter.

A single study might be misleading or not. This is the position of the Mayo Clinic. They don't have a party line.

WTF do you even think a party line is that is different from a position?

If that disgusts you, don't buy it.

"Disgusting" is an objective quality, not a personal preference.

No one is sexually mutilating kids ... except religious people doing circumcisions.

This is just neckbeardy as fuck. Circumcision didn't turn me into an objectionable public spectacle. Didn't do much of anything.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wanted to let you know that i read this.

I didn't think you raised any new points that aren't prima facie wrong.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Que ridículo.

[–]beerghal[S] 22 insightful - 8 fun22 insightful - 7 fun23 insightful - 8 fun -  (3 children)

"Trans" and "suicide" - name a more iconic duo

[–]LtGreenCo 18 insightful - 10 fun18 insightful - 9 fun19 insightful - 10 fun -  (2 children)

BLM and rioting?

[–]beerghal[S] 7 insightful - 10 fun7 insightful - 9 fun8 insightful - 10 fun -  (1 child)

I think you mean BLM and "mostly peaceful protests"

[–]LtGreenCo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"I don't know officer for some strange reason people just randomly started looting and setting things on fire. I honestly don't know what gave them that idea. We were just peacefully protesting here with our anti-white, anti-capitalist, pro-anarchy picket signs, shouting angrily and loudly about how we need to tear down this racist country including all of its systems and laws."

[–]Enemycupcake 14 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

Laughing at trans craziness in general is one thing, making fun of a specific person who killed themselves is pretty fucked up.

[–]beerghal[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I definitely felt a bit bad for posting this

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not so much making fun of but observing the obvious consequences playing out.

[–]thethrowawayReddit refugee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree

And it doesnt sit right to use the suicide of a human being as a conversation starter about trans politics. A human took their own life, a sibling, a child, and its incredibly sad.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sorry but the whole argument about allowing trans people to access single sex spaces and control other people's speech is based on the idea denying them causes suicide. You might find it icky but the conversation has already been started by someone else.

[–]thethrowawayReddit refugee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thats understandable. Still doesnt sit right with me in this context, I will choose not to but Im not gonna judge anyone for doing otherwise

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

One day everyone is gonna wake up and recognize this medical scandal for what it is, and the people it's hurt.

[–]jet199 10 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

You can sure see that euphoria in his eyes.

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    [–]Femaleisnthateful 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Totally. This is just a PG version of Faces of Death. Some of these threads are about victims of violence, child abuse etc

    Even the ones with people posting their relatives' pictures as they're dying. Grandma's on her deathbed and your thoughts are 'better get this on the internet for likes'?

    Social media is making people sell their souls for upvotes.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I took a look at a couple of fotos in there and got depressed so I left.

    It would be better if r/lastimages was all about photos of buildings before they got demolished, for example.

    [–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    The look of sadness in his face.

    [–]Haylstorm 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Def looks like they're thinking about something, quite possibly already decided to commit suicide.

    [–]CreditKnifeMan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    That's how I hold my beverage fluids, when I'm posing.

    Dupers delight.

    [–]jet199 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    I didn't notice that.

    Obviously trans-drinking

    [–]ShekelPa 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    zomg. who could have seen that coming.

    [–]IMissPorn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    It's sad when a relative drinks the koolaid gender fluid.

    [–]Hellothereawesome 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This whole homosexuality push is killing many kids literally and figuratively

    [–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    It's amazing how many women are taking their own lives these days...

    [–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Poor guy :(

    [–]ptitty12392 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    ...so you're going to farm upvotes for it? No wonder he offed himself

    [–]TotoroDeams 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    And this is why I think the world should NOT pander to this bullshit. I think we really need to push for mental health assistance for anyone that thinks they are trans. They need medical help, not social.