SANITYPeterson refusing to delete 'offensive tweet', and explainig how impossible language has become in woke ideiology

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[–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I get the feeling of being annoyed or sad for hearing their original name with all the baggage. Like yknow most normal people when they change their names. Unfortunately we've reached the point where it's drama levels of naking others pariahs.

Wait until their minds blow into smithereens that in East Asian history, a person gets multiple names throughout their lives. Especially if the person is of significant position. Oda Nobunaga was not born as Oda. He had a childhood name. Genghis Khan too had a childhood name and it was Temujin. By the locomotive's logic those childhood names are deadnames and should be forbidden.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There’s being polite, and then there’s being on the end of a screaming fit. I will always be polite, but I refuse to accept that a screaming fit or accusations of bigotry are appropriate responses this sort of thing.

I’ve got a surname that is difficult for English speakers to pronounce properly, and in fact my family being all English speakers as my brown grandparents didn’t pass on their home languages to my dad or his siblings, doesn’t quite get it right either (it’s pretty funny but a colleague who speaks the right language taught me to say it properly at the ripe old age of 35), so for all my life I have been called by a wide range of mispronunciations of my surname. In fact, mispronunciation was the default, when someone gets it right (especially since I’ve learnt the correct pronunciation myself) I take notice of it. However, in all those years I’d never considered mispronunciation as anything other than a mistake or an inherent problem with the phonemes in English (the 44 or so sounds that make up all spoken English that are associated with 250ish graphemes, or letter combinations, in written English).

Until about ten years ago when I did some diversity training and all of a sudden mispronunciation of a name was a racial “microaggression” and a warning sign of terrible systemic racism. Now, having grown up with my surname and the mispronunciation of it, not to mention teaching in an area with a lot of West African and South Asian families and the ridiculously difficult to pronounce names some people from those places have - seriously what the fuck is going on with Tamil surnames? - I instantly knew this was bullshit and it was probably one of the major causes for me to reject all the woke shit that my fellow leftists were adopting.

[–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I will always be polite, but I refuse to accept that a screaming fit or accusations of bigotry are appropriate responses this sort of thing.

I just, can't brain how in 7 years the acceptable answer to everything is to scream like a toddler, complete with namecalling. And yet here we are!

I’ve got a surname that is difficult for English speakers to pronounce properly, and in fact my family being all English speakers as my brown grandparents didn’t pass on their home languages to my dad or his siblings, doesn’t quite get it right either (it’s pretty funny but a colleague who speaks the right language taught me to say it properly at the ripe old age of 35), so for all my life I have been called by a wide range of mispronunciations of my surname.

I live in South East Asia and I totally get the whole 'difficult to pronounce' stuff. Even worse for Chinese descent (like me) where even the Chinese can't pronounce my name right. I realised from a very young age that the only people who's gonna get my name right are those who spoke Mandarin since a wee baby. Since I didn't speak Mandarin from childhood, I myself can't even get my own name right half the time.

I did some diversity training and all of a sudden mispronunciation of a name was a racial “microaggression” and a warning sign of terrible systemic racism.

Brb dying from cringe. Uargh pain peko.

Tamil surnames

There's a belief that the longer the name, the longer you'll live. That resulted in mega long names.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

There's a belief that the longer the name, the longer you'll live. That resulted in mega long names.

Hah! That explains soo much! I had a lot of pupils from Tamil families at my last school and the names got crazy and impossible to remember. Thanks for finally explaining that to me!

[–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No problem! Oh I have another fun tidbit to share, this time it's more from the northern side of india (Tamil is the southmost).

I knew a teen whose full name is 27 generations long. Not 27 letters. Generations. Their registered name is limited to their father only (son/daughter of X) but their real names include the names of their grandfather and great-grandfather and great-great grandfather and beyond. They are written down and kept with the head priest for them to retrieve when they reach adulthood.

So the names of some Indians really can be Z son of Y X W V U T S R Q P O N M L K J I H G F E D C B A. Replace every letter with actual names and that's it.