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[–]1-800-FUCKOFF 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That kinda leaves out the actual leverage they get from the suicide threat

  • I won't be there anymore, which sucks for you if you enjoy having me around.
  • If I kill myself because you wouldn't help me, you'll feel guilt.

Your opinion will no longer be a going concern. I have no reason to do what you say.

Yeah, I mean... Thar's why suicide baiting a stranger who doesn't give a fuck about you doesn't work. Friends and family though? Different story.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even with the leverage, that just distills it to the five-year-old threatening it on "if you don't do what I say, I'll kill myself and you'll be SOOOOOOOOOOOO SORRY and you'll cry and cry and say 'Oh I WISH I just gave them their way so they'd still be alive today!' but you won't be able to because I'll be dead an' literally everyone in the whole world's gonna know you caused me to kill myself an' know you murdered me an' everyone in the whole world's gonna HATE YOU FOREVER for this an' you'll have no choice but to kill yourself TOO!"- and that is why "if your opponent is arguing like a five-year-old, you have to respond like you would to a five-year-old."

Friends and family is a different story, but then it becomes "...yeah, you obviously hate me enough to commit a recognized act of domestic violence against me. If you choose to abuse me, you clearly aren't pulling your weight in this relationship and honestly I might be better off without you."