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[–]TotoroDeams 41 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 0 fun42 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Honestly, I feels like a spite ban unless we can see concrete proof that hate was A) Posted / Promoted, B) Moderators had enough time to deal with it and ignored it. Other wise the bans were unjust.

The problem is, they are so obsessed with fighting "hate" and swinging and windmills, that they are creating the enemy they so feared.

They think 2030 is going to be a LGTBA+bullshit paradise, in reality, once the pendulum swings back against them, they are going to face so, so, so much more hate than when they started and no one will give a shit because they went so too far.

The fact that FINA ruled AGAINST Transwomen in women sports to block it, shows that the public opinion is slowly fading and once more and more of that happens and is shown to have support, more and more companies are going to jump the TRA ship.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

They think 2030 is going to be a LGTBA+bullshit paradise, in reality, once the pendulum swings back against them, they are going to face so, so, so much more hate than when they started and no one will give a shit because they went so too far.

This is one of the things that concerns me. I was happy when I gained the right to legally marry my spouse. That's all I needed, and the two of us have faded into the woodwork to be part of our general, family-oriented community. All of this degeneracy, from raping lesbians to mutilating children to forcing kids to view kink, is ultimately going to imperil my simple right to be left alone.

[–][deleted] 37 insightful - 1 fun37 insightful - 0 fun38 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Same here. I married my wife, we have rights, we just hang out with our friends and play boardgames. We don't want anything weird. And now we're being threatened by incels who want to fuck us.

[–]Datachost 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I remember reading a tweet thread the other day by a gay man, who'd been active in activism/ knew people who'd been at it since way before him, who basically said even back in the day the activism was often split in two, the integrationists, that is gay people who just wanted the same things as everyone else, to not have to risk getting fired, losing their housing, to not have to face harassment and to be allowed to get married and who generally advocated for themselves on a platform of being just like everyone else. And then the other group, the radicals, what we'd nowadays class as the Q+, people who wanted to dissolve all boundaries and who claimed they actually weren't like everyone else, they were special.

The problem now is, the integrationists aren't taking place in activism anymore, since they have what they were aiming for. And ironically enough that's led to them having to get reinvolved, because the Q+ have ran away with it, and they're having to get back on their soapboxes to say "No, really. Most of us are just regular people, who want to get on with life. This isn't us", because they fear getting caught in the inevitable backlash.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's a good point, the other is that activism in big business. In the UK, organisations like Stonewall pivoted HARD to the T once same sex marriage was a reality. Their big goal was achieved, so they needed a new cause if they wanted to keep the donations and grants coming in and this is what they've run with

[–]Datachost 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Here's a fun Stonewall anecdote Simon Edge has told: He was at an event to celebrate gay marriage being passed in the UK. Whilst there he was approached by a certain lord, heavily hinted, though not confirmed to be Lord Michael Cashman, who mused on what Stonewall's next cause might be. Now some even at that time were of the opinion that they should just gradually wind down, or maybe focus on international advocacy. Lord Cashman (allegedly) suggested they might campaign to allow the spouses of gay or lesbian lords or ladies also adopt the title. This isn't a privilege afforded to straight couples, that's why they had to establish the Thatcher Baronetcy. No wonder they started focussing on trans stuff, when that was the best some of their ranks could come up with.

[–]DimDroog 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Activism IS big business. Diversity and inclusion gets tons of money thrown at it.

The goal of any justice org should be the eventual fading off and dying of it, because its goals have been met!

Imagine no more animal shelters b/c people are kind and responsible!

[–]MsTig0 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And ironically enough that's led to them having to get reinvolved, because the Q+ have ran away with it, and they're having to get back on their soapboxes to say "No, really. Most of us are just regular people, who want to get on with life. This isn't us", because they fear getting caught in the inevitable backlash.

Well it's like Pride. When I still attended, it was mostly gay and lesbian people with their families, regular working people with kids or no kids, marching peacefully to protect their rights to live regular lives.

And the last time I attended it was men in dog masks, furries, dudes in drag waving their dicks around, and some very confused looking families.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's like that old onion article. "Gay pride parade sets back gay rights 50 years".

[–]DimDroog 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was "talking" to someone on Reddit about this.

His sister is Muslim, and went to a Pride parade to fight her prejudices, and be more accepting.

Her response was almost the same as the satire in the Onion article.

She was appalled, and disgusted.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That might actually be a really valid point. I just don't know how to solve it.

[–]Datachost 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So this is just my opinion, based on what I've read here and there, but for all the talk of the inevitable backlash also affecting LGB people, I'm not so sure that's going to happen based on what I've read. Don't get me wrong, there'll definitely be people who can't differentiate between gay people trying to live their lives and this madness, but I think those people wouldn't be particularly fond of gay people anyway, regardless of how they lived. Meanwhile the general tenor from a good portion of the conservative base nowadays seems to be "Well, you're one of those regular gay people. I don't care if you want to get married so long as you're not too loud about it". Which still isn't ideal, but it's better than the alternative that gay marriage might end up getting repealed.

I don't really get why the US keeps having these decisions hinge on court cases rather than actual legislation anyway, but that's another issue for another day

[–]DimDroog 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's really sad.

Most of the gay men and lesbians I grew up with were very boring and middle class.