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[–]TotoroDeams 41 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 0 fun42 insightful - 1 fun -  (46 children)

Honestly, I feels like a spite ban unless we can see concrete proof that hate was A) Posted / Promoted, B) Moderators had enough time to deal with it and ignored it. Other wise the bans were unjust.

The problem is, they are so obsessed with fighting "hate" and swinging and windmills, that they are creating the enemy they so feared.

They think 2030 is going to be a LGTBA+bullshit paradise, in reality, once the pendulum swings back against them, they are going to face so, so, so much more hate than when they started and no one will give a shit because they went so too far.

The fact that FINA ruled AGAINST Transwomen in women sports to block it, shows that the public opinion is slowly fading and once more and more of that happens and is shown to have support, more and more companies are going to jump the TRA ship.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

They think 2030 is going to be a LGTBA+bullshit paradise, in reality, once the pendulum swings back against them, they are going to face so, so, so much more hate than when they started and no one will give a shit because they went so too far.

This is one of the things that concerns me. I was happy when I gained the right to legally marry my spouse. That's all I needed, and the two of us have faded into the woodwork to be part of our general, family-oriented community. All of this degeneracy, from raping lesbians to mutilating children to forcing kids to view kink, is ultimately going to imperil my simple right to be left alone.

[–][deleted] 37 insightful - 1 fun37 insightful - 0 fun38 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Same here. I married my wife, we have rights, we just hang out with our friends and play boardgames. We don't want anything weird. And now we're being threatened by incels who want to fuck us.

[–]Datachost 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I remember reading a tweet thread the other day by a gay man, who'd been active in activism/ knew people who'd been at it since way before him, who basically said even back in the day the activism was often split in two, the integrationists, that is gay people who just wanted the same things as everyone else, to not have to risk getting fired, losing their housing, to not have to face harassment and to be allowed to get married and who generally advocated for themselves on a platform of being just like everyone else. And then the other group, the radicals, what we'd nowadays class as the Q+, people who wanted to dissolve all boundaries and who claimed they actually weren't like everyone else, they were special.

The problem now is, the integrationists aren't taking place in activism anymore, since they have what they were aiming for. And ironically enough that's led to them having to get reinvolved, because the Q+ have ran away with it, and they're having to get back on their soapboxes to say "No, really. Most of us are just regular people, who want to get on with life. This isn't us", because they fear getting caught in the inevitable backlash.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's a good point, the other is that activism in big business. In the UK, organisations like Stonewall pivoted HARD to the T once same sex marriage was a reality. Their big goal was achieved, so they needed a new cause if they wanted to keep the donations and grants coming in and this is what they've run with

[–]Datachost 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Here's a fun Stonewall anecdote Simon Edge has told: He was at an event to celebrate gay marriage being passed in the UK. Whilst there he was approached by a certain lord, heavily hinted, though not confirmed to be Lord Michael Cashman, who mused on what Stonewall's next cause might be. Now some even at that time were of the opinion that they should just gradually wind down, or maybe focus on international advocacy. Lord Cashman (allegedly) suggested they might campaign to allow the spouses of gay or lesbian lords or ladies also adopt the title. This isn't a privilege afforded to straight couples, that's why they had to establish the Thatcher Baronetcy. No wonder they started focussing on trans stuff, when that was the best some of their ranks could come up with.

[–]DimDroog 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Activism IS big business. Diversity and inclusion gets tons of money thrown at it.

The goal of any justice org should be the eventual fading off and dying of it, because its goals have been met!

Imagine no more animal shelters b/c people are kind and responsible!

[–]MsTig0 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And ironically enough that's led to them having to get reinvolved, because the Q+ have ran away with it, and they're having to get back on their soapboxes to say "No, really. Most of us are just regular people, who want to get on with life. This isn't us", because they fear getting caught in the inevitable backlash.

Well it's like Pride. When I still attended, it was mostly gay and lesbian people with their families, regular working people with kids or no kids, marching peacefully to protect their rights to live regular lives.

And the last time I attended it was men in dog masks, furries, dudes in drag waving their dicks around, and some very confused looking families.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's like that old onion article. "Gay pride parade sets back gay rights 50 years".

[–]DimDroog 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was "talking" to someone on Reddit about this.

His sister is Muslim, and went to a Pride parade to fight her prejudices, and be more accepting.

Her response was almost the same as the satire in the Onion article.

She was appalled, and disgusted.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That might actually be a really valid point. I just don't know how to solve it.

[–]Datachost 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So this is just my opinion, based on what I've read here and there, but for all the talk of the inevitable backlash also affecting LGB people, I'm not so sure that's going to happen based on what I've read. Don't get me wrong, there'll definitely be people who can't differentiate between gay people trying to live their lives and this madness, but I think those people wouldn't be particularly fond of gay people anyway, regardless of how they lived. Meanwhile the general tenor from a good portion of the conservative base nowadays seems to be "Well, you're one of those regular gay people. I don't care if you want to get married so long as you're not too loud about it". Which still isn't ideal, but it's better than the alternative that gay marriage might end up getting repealed.

I don't really get why the US keeps having these decisions hinge on court cases rather than actual legislation anyway, but that's another issue for another day

[–]DimDroog 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's really sad.

Most of the gay men and lesbians I grew up with were very boring and middle class.

[–]Datachost 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Honestly, I feels like a spite ban

It absolutely is. I can honestly say I rarely saw anything on there I'd genuinely describe as hateful. And on the rare occasion someone did post an actual slur, or it was just a post purely mocking someone's appearance, they'd get called out on it at best or downvoted into oblivion.

[–]comingabout 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Anything actually hateful, like what most sane people would classify as hateful, would get downvoted. The problem is that "hate" is apparently wildly subjective. Saying that transwomen shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports is likely considered "hate" by a good portion of Reddit users and likely all Reddit admins.

[–]Datachost 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Saying that transwomen shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports is likely considered "hate" by a good portion of Reddit users

I'm not so sure on that one. If the last few days have shown anything it's that sports at the very least tend to be people's line in the sand. Even r/news and r/worldnews had to have their threads on FINA's policy locked/deleted, because most of the comments were "Well duh".

[–]comingabout 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's a decent portion, not the majority. It's possible that they're fewer than I think but just very vocal. The majority of comments in r/subredditdrama are happy that TIA was banned, and even some commenters in the KIA thread are.

[–]TotoroDeams 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, I was banned from SocialJusticeInAction. I talked to their mods and cooled my tits. They are on hateful shit fast.

I just can not stand TRA's and this new wave LGBTA "were so sensitive" dictator bullshit.

[–]the_refugee 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As a gay man the woke SJW bullshit has done nothing but make my life more difficult and people assume they have to walk on eggshells around me.

[–]TotoroDeams 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

people assume they have to walk on eggshells around me.

Not assume, we HAVE to for our safety.. We do not know you personally, so as a gay person, any straight person, especially white has to be on the thinnest of eggshells around you, because we don't know you. That is what its done.

[–]RedditExPat69 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

they banned an account of mine for saying that gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Which the American Psych. Org recognizes it as.

[–]reluctant_commenter 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Slogan 1: "We need our healthcare to cover medical transition because this is a medical issue!"

Slogan 2: "It's not a medical issue/mental illness, you bigot!"

Slogan 1 is the trans movement's real goal, Slogan 2 is the claim used by the trans movement to pretend that they're a "Gay Rights 2.0" movement. But the reality is that being gay does not cost you a single cent or require you to look a certain way.

[–]wafflegaff 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Imagine if we had to drug ourselves into being attracted to the same sex. That'd be a tough sell. Who would bother?

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hahaha that's so true.

[–]DimDroog 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But the reality is that being gay does not cost you a single cent or require you to look a certain way.

Being gay also doesn't force people around you to pretend you're gay, or worry about being assaulted in bathrooms, nor asked your pronouns.

I hate the T so much.

[–]TotoroDeams 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My current reddit account was banned but I got it unbanned. It was spam reported for hurt feelings but wasn't hate.

They have an auto-ban feature it seems that bans you if a certain amount come in? Basically a brigade feature.

[–]MsTig0 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Of course the bans were unjust. Hell, they tried to ban r/detrans previously but people made too much noise. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried again. The thumb-lookalike mods want reddit to be their safe space.

[–]TotoroDeams 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Which is quite hilarious as freedom of speech is what made reddit what it was. The moment they banned r/watchpeopledie and r/fatpeoplehate, I knew it was only time before it became a Care Bear zone.

[–]PenseePansy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I keep wondering if they'll get their wish... by driving everyone else away from Reddit. So that it consists entirely of the T and their minions.

At which point, Reddit will cease to be economically viable. And collapse.

Or maybe Reddit's Powers That Be will see this coming, and kick these fanatical wackadoos to the curb before they take the entire platform down with them.

[–]wafflegaff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wondered how that sub was managing to survive there.

[–]FourteenDigitz 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The gender cultists accuse the entirety of /r/detrans as being an anti-trans psyop, of course they tried to get it banned.

[–]Sentinell 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

once the pendulum swings back against them

I think unless some very charismatic candidate like Obama shows up for the Dems, the Republicans can just prop up the corpse of Nixon and still win. And the redditor (mods) will be absolutely baffled the Dems didn't win.

[–]TotoroDeams 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And the redditor (mods) will be absolutely baffled the Dems didn't win.

Not baffled, they will go full force into the rhetoric of "muh stolen elections!" and how the republicans cheated and tampered and such. I give it a year after a new Republican President and this shit will either be cemented into American society or in the anals of histor.y

[–]jet199 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They don't want an LGTBA+bullshit paradise.

They stupidly believe that queering every boundary will destroy society so that they can take over and create a marxist paradise.

Once they've done that all those bourgeois gay and trans wokescolds will go to the wall.

I've had female detrans kids admit this to me. At 15 their life plans were to be a transman who dressed feminine and to get pregnant to queer the binary which would bring about a socialist utopia. That's partly why you see intelligent kids go along with mad genders and nonsense like "bisexual lesbians" or "soft boys". It's manipulate. They aren't delusional, there's a twisted logic behind it.

[–]LearningTheLand 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I can say with utter honestly there is no group I hate more than satanists and the LGBT community.

[–]TotoroDeams 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

and the LGBT community.

And this is the biggest thing, the LGB community is being so fucking railroaded over this. There is an entire community of LGB sanity that is just having everything they fought for pushed back decades.

[–]ChickenTendiesforAll 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That’s my biggest concern here. I’m gay. I just want to be left alone. But no, because they’ve decided that my sexuality is somehow linked to another person’s mental illness, I must now suffer. This is why I worry more and more about the antics of the TRAs.

[–]TotoroDeams 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Honestly, I use to say you had nothing to worry about, however, now? These people have made it so anyone anywhere close in proximity to the LGB (QWERTYUIOP[]\ASDFGHJKL;'ZXCVBNM,./+) movement or groups is a potential whack-a-doodle and so now even normal gays, sane gays are getting shafted.

[–]ChickenTendiesforAll 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yep. And when we try and distance ourselves, such as through the former LGBdroptheT sun, we are banned and mocked. They hate us but won’t let us get away. Truly an abusive relationship.

[–]TotoroDeams 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They hate us but won’t let us get away.

That's because they need you, once they no longer need you, they will drop you fast.

[–]jet199 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Unfortunately it's still a minority of the LGB pushing back and we have to deal with that reality.

Just like how rad fems claim the trans borg is driven by evil men when at every step it's actually women pushing this stuff through.

Trans allies are mostly women and gays, they are the people working behind the scenes to sneak this stuff into policy. AGPs might be loud and obvious but they can't drive or because their very appearance let's the cat out of the bag.

[–]FourteenDigitz 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In all of the discourse outside of Reddit I’ve listened to on this topic, it’s all been men debating this shit. I have yet to see a woman who isn’t holding back on speaking out out of fear.

[–]DimDroog 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I never hear about LGBT again, and see that ugly flag, I will die happy.

I am friends with and like LGBT people!

I grew up around them in the 70s.

It's all the T now, and Queerdos, aka special straight people.

[–]DimDroog 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They think 2030 is going to be a LGTBA+bullshit paradise, in reality, once the pendulum swings back against them, they are going to face so, so, so much more hate than when they started and no one will give a shit because they went so too far.

I feel this way about BLM nonsense too.

[–]TotoroDeams 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel this way about BLM nonsense too.

Right and you see very little about BLM compared to when it was accepted now a days.

Problem is, TRA are doing so much more.

[–]LyingSpirit472 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, I feels like a spite ban unless we can see concrete proof that hate was A) Posted / Promoted, B) Moderators had enough time to deal with it and ignored it. Other wise the bans were unjust.

Spoken like they couldn't flat-out say "yes, we banned you out of spite because you defied us. We'll shout it from a mountaintop. Hell, we jerked off while we banned you out of spite. And we run the site so you can't do shit about it. And if you complain? We'll cry you're oppressing us, and we'll win. Be happy we don't say you were spreading illegal content and give your IPs to the cops for defying us."

[–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's incredibly clear that this is a spite ban, followed up with a smear campaign.