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As a writer and a poet who rarely studies the works of others, I find that Fuller quote to be incredibly accurate and helpful. "...unless you’re not only willing, but glad, to feel and work and fight till you die." I was just having a friendly sparring match with a material-reductionist about life and experience, and I constantly found myself glad that I have been so willing to feel and learn and change. There are so many I know who lament over their life and their gifts, and their response seems to be follow-the-leader. He kept saying "Oh, that idea sounds like this writer, or this philosopher." And I just wanted to explain that most of my ideas come from sitting in a quiet room by myself and just experiencing. That I only use logic and reason AFTER I experience whatever it is my senses are trying to get me to experience. When I live my life this way, poetry and writing comes so easy. When I use logic and reason first and foremost, I tend to become discontent, and I write stuff that I just KNOW I'll have to rewrite. Buckminster Fuller. He is on my mind a lot today.

I started my saidit account because I got kicked off of other internet forums for calling out people for being defeatists. There is something sinister happening in that regard, and I don't like it one bit. I think it's System of a Down who said "can't afford to be neutral on a moving train."

I appreciate you, person from elsewhere. Keep your spirits up, and I'm sure you'll meet someone like me IRL.

Edit: I have no favorite subs as of yet. I haven't been here for very long.

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I have read some things about memes and memetics, and I do find it interesting. I'll go through those links and get back to you.

    FYI, I have had experiences that have made me much more willing to let go of my association with my thoughts and the conceptual ideas I enjoy to think about. In my experience, the human journey is one full of a focus on the non-real, or the mythic. I know that there is a nugget of truth in the human mythos, and the only way to figure it out is to forego your bodily attachments to thought and concepts. Those are tools, just like imagination, and they can very easily lead people down illusionary rabbit holes. If that makes sense (?)

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    Your FYI carries much truth to my sense abilities and sensibilities. Mythos, mythic and non-real are metaphors of what it is we experience as life as a human with a psyche. This is why I love memetics.

    No one word is a meme. I envision it like this: I close my eyes and envision the night sky with no light pollution from our cities. This vision is my total inner being and I look up to the light of stars/words projecting into my inner being. Each star is a word and the entire dictionary is shinning light on the space between all the words that, which is my inner being. Words are only there for us to communicate our inner being. They are a reference to my inner being, yet so far away from what is my inner being. There are parsecs of meaning between the stars. It takes a conversation and time to get to know another human by word alone. The space between the words is memetic territory, topographies and landscapes...ephemeral mental structures indicated by the words each of us use. Words shin light on that inner space we all experience. The meaning is found between. Words are lighting references points to the place inside all of us that we share...that place of no words. The Bible even makes great emphasis on "and then there was word".

    Word is a triplicate of written, read and comprehension between. It takes at least two humans to utilize word, language and linguistics. I don't know but it seems as if the majority of humans take this process I speak of through memetics for granted. IDK, maybe you can share your opinion.

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      Yes, dreaming is a place without words, even though I hear words during dreaming...not all the time. I will check out s/consciousness and see what to post. Thanks for the recommendation.

      Meme goes much deeper than what the main stream media depicts. I found Meme in the early nineties and it has never left me. The concept was exactly what I was looking for to create a conversation about our minds and how they function. I will have to think deeply on what to post.

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      I made a sub for brown music. its called s/BrownMusic I hope you enjoy!

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      "As a writer and a poet who rarely studies the works of others..." Yes, how else does one learn to think for themselves. Like Bucky wrote to feel is to be nobody-but-yourself. There are no classes at school and my parents never talked of emotional intelligence or the sentiments of Bucky's words "feelings produce nobody-but-yourself. No one can teach you how to feel.

      Yet, I have to say I read others words to help me understand subjects with which my mind deals. I attempt writing essays and poetry, yet not as talented at these things as I wish to be. I love the structure of Haiku to express deeper feelings of life as human.

      Take care and talk to you soon...create a great day...

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      I definitely have lots of books on my shelves that I have read and that I plan on reading. I don't mean to sound like I never study! Just that I tend to come up with my own thoughts, then see who else may be saying similar things. It's been a good practice for me, not necessarily one I think others should follow. I tend to study the work of my foes more than the work of my allies, because I seek to be challenged.

      Haiku is awesome! it's one of the only poetic structures I like to use. I tend to write free of any form or structures, and I usually end up with a structure of my own. Like, the poem takes a life of its own in a way, and it has its own flow in that regard.

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      I think your method is a good one. I do similar things with study and always want a challenge to my ways and means of thinking about life. I always attempt to expand or change if necessary my thought patterns and ideas. I try to live by this motto I made up: I want to know as much as possible and to believe as little as I can muster. I have shoved knowledge into my brain through out my entire life, including today. If fuels the tool of imagination. Nice, haiku is awesome and glad to hear you enjoy this style of poetry.