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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Fascism just means a high degree of authoritarianism based around nationalism, which is a feature of communism as well as dictatorships.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

No, fascism is an ideology like liberalism, communism, socialism and so on.

With your definition Monarchy is a fascist system...

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Here is the dictionary definition of fascism:

  1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

  2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.

So basically it is authoritarianism via nationalism. I would agree that Monarchy is fascist by the dictionary definition, especially if the power is kept mostly by military/police force. In effect, fascism is just a proxy word for the most common types of strong authoritarianism

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Who wrote that definition? A jew?

Fascists are really known for their "capitalist economy"

Also, entertaining your definition, if Fascism as an ideology has aspects of authoritarianism it does not mean that other ideologies that also have aspects of authoritarianism are somehow fascist. They do not become fascist, but rather they become authoritarian.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes authoritarian is the top-level umbrella, and fascism is a more narrow scope that is just certain types of authoritarianism.

a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls

I would argue "subject to stringent governmental controls" means it's no longer really capitalism. Technically Venezuela is capitalism under that definition. But it's obviously not. So this part of the definition is basically meaningless and can be omitted imo

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I would argue "subject to stringent governmental controls" means it's no longer really capitalism

Denmark has a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls. I would argue that it is still capitalism and so would most danes.

But I agree with you that the definition from that dictionary is bad.

Yes authoritarian is the top-level umbrella, and fascism is a more narrow scope that is just certain types of authoritarianism.

Yes, I suppose that is one way to look at it. Communism is another more narrow scope that is just a certain type of authoritarianism. Communism doesn't suddenly become fascist just because they are both authoritarian. Many ideologies are authoritarian and that's why we have that word. Fascism is a type of authoritarianism and Communism is a type of authoritarianism.