"If your trans activism does not respect women’s boundaries, fails to understand child safeguarding, belittles homosexuality and regards difference of opinion as bigotry, then your activism is the narcissism of a sociopath. You don’t need validation, you need help."

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[–][deleted] 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

So they'll literally turn a man into a "woman" using female parts. Sorry but that's still not a woman. It's still a man with a man's DNA with women parts grafted in for some womanly functions.

[–]C3P0 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

It's still a man with a man's DNA.

That part is not quite accurate. Since the uterus has female DNA, the man's body would now contain female DNA. This is very similar to The Ship of Theseus.

One might go on to argue that, even with a uterus, female arms and female legs, the person is still a man because a person is defined by their brain. Medical science is a long way away, but if it were possible, I think a male brain transplanted onto a female body would be considered a female person by the majority.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It still wouldn't be female. It would be frankenstein.

[–]C3P0 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fair enough.

[–]FediNetizen 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

The Ship of Theseus is made of replicas of all of its original parts. The question underlying the premise of the Ship of Theseus no longer applies when your wooden warship has been retrofitted with a machine gun.

If you really feel the need to bring the Ship of Theseus into this discussion, the question would be whether the modern Navy that previously declined to purchase the Ship of Theseus to use as a warship would now be interested in doing so since it has been retrofitted with a machine gun. And the answer to that question, by the way, is the same no as before.

Edit: Now that I think about it, bringing up the question of the Ship of Theseus in the context of this discussion misses the mark in two major ways, not just one. The question was never about whether the Ship of Theseus was still a ship, since the answer to that was always trivially obvious. The question was whether it was the same ship as the one that was originally built. Whether it is or isn't, that has no bearing on the discussion of whether or not a man that has had a uterus implant is still a man.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

Whether it is or isn't, that has no bearing on the discussion of whether or not a man that has had a uterus implant is still a man.

Let's retrofit the Ship of Theseus with a uterus.

Any sailors interested in test driving the Uterus of Theseus?

[–]FediNetizen 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

This brings a whole new perspective to the fact that captains typically referred to their ships as "she".

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

captains typically referred to their ships as "she".

In 2021, some captains call ships "he".

[–]ah2020 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The Theseuterus.

[–]C3P0 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Fun points. It just made me think of the Ship of Theseus, which evokes the thought: "if a man replaces all his body parts with that of a female's, is he still a man?" Then you'd have to go on and define exactly what a "man" is. The law probably uses DNA, but there are some stories out there that will make you think twice.

I'll bring up chimeras now, and you can go write another paragraph about how it is irrelevant in the space allocated below.