Saidit's voting system: Why it's awesome and how to use it

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[–]ColdRoland 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

It would easily give off the impression that fun is discouraged since it's only valued at "half the price".

On sites with the same format as Saidit (reddit/voat/phuks/poal etc) they use subs as a guide if it's going to be funny or insightful - You wouldn't traditionally expect insightful posts in r/funny and vice versa in "serious" subs. What does the insightful/funny add that I'm not currently getting and wouldn't be solved by simply removing the downvote?

I personally enjoy uplifting and entertaining posts as much as (on saidit usually) desperately depressive, yet thought provoking and often necessary posts. Now that I know how the voting system works, I could easily start to upvote funny stuff with the insightful upvote AS WELL as the funny upvote since my personal preference dictates a 50/50 mix, but won't that quite easily and somewhat unintendedly defeat the entire purpose of the insightful/funny system?

Edit: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/6ve/saidits_voting_system_why_its_awesome_and_how_to/gm4 shows what I mean. My single effort bumped it from the bottom to the top of the comments.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Sometimes funny things are insightful, sometimes they aren't. Just vote with what feels right.

[–]ColdRoland 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Are you basing the authenticity of the post votes on the users integrity?

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

What do you mean exactly?

[–]ColdRoland 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

How can you know that people aren't "Up-bulbed and funnied for maximum boosting!" instead of using the insightful/funny votes to help discern between serious and non-serious posts?

Are you trusting the users to not abuse the system?

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Yeah? Of course some will abuse it, but most won't and it'll still be a useful thing

[–]ColdRoland 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Just vote with what feels right.

I feel that you've added to the discussion but didn't see my point so I'll award you 1/2 point for your effort.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No system is 100% perfect for all situations. The Saidit voting system is non-punative.

Just vote with what feels right.

You have been white-faced.

White-facing you just felt right.

[–]ColdRoland 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No system is 100% perfect for all situations. The Saidit voting system is non-punative.

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/6w4/are_the_trolls_here_now_last_night_someone_took/

This poster sure felt otherwise.

You have been white-faced. White-facing you just felt right.

Ah, now I get it. No matter if you find my comments insightful, funny or even ridiculous - Thanks for the visibility boost, 1/2 a point is better than no point!

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are no half points. You still get a full point.

 

Also, I suppose that getting white-faced or black-faced really depends on whether you're using night mode, or not. I always use night mode.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Was it funny? then why vote it funny? They're sorted differently...

[–]ColdRoland 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes, and hence my surreal reply as an attempt at being ridiculous as well (which in turn got its own funny vote).

Perhaps my kind of humour allows me to see the potential hilarity in trusting the behaviour of anonymous internet users and yours don't?

Perhaps your kind of humour doesn't include chuckling at half a point in a 1 and/or 2 point system?

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

There is no better system though. The votes have to come from somewhere... at some point we have to trust the user or there would be no voting at all. People can still be removed if they're bringing the quality of saidit down as per the pyramid of debate. What is your proposed solution?