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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (87 children)

Evil people systemically rise to the top because power corrupts absolutely. Nepotism, corporatism, secrecy, tribalism, usury, centralization, corruption, bankster favouritism, mafia governments, selective enforcement, regulatory capture, lack of accountability, rigged voting, psychopathy rewarded, demagogue worship, censorship... All systems feeding the evil.

Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

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I find your take on the question puzzlingly simplistic. To me, what you are stating is akin to "Evil is wrong because it's bad" and "bad people do bad things".

WHY does power corrupt? Did you ever bother asking yourself that? Not that the answser is obvious but it's a very enriching one.

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Power doesn’t necessarily corrupt. It's more likely that it amplifies inherent personality and behavioral traits. We see a similar effect in lottery winners who suddenly end up with vast sums of money. If they were previously fiscally prudent, it's unlikely they become profligate wasters.

Of course, the fiscally prudent typically don't waste their money on lottery tickets, just as the morally sound are unlikely to battle their way into positions of power.

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Exactly. But this still points to the question as to WHAT makes people "evil"? Yes, SOME people more than others obviously. Until somebody is able to understand perfectly well how this works, they are doomed to repeat the same political cycles of systemic corruption leading to revolution leading to a new set of overlords who quickly become corrupt to the point of making it systemic all over again.

The ONLY way to break the cycle is to understand the inner workings of the human psyche.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (31 children)

How do you define "evil"? (Talk about simplistic.)

I define it with Natural Law - do not harm, steal, or deceive others.

This is surrounded by many more layers of broad grey areas on slippery slopes...

How do you define harm, steal, or deceive? How do you define and find justice? How do you find justice when many people collaborate in the evil? How do you define self defense? How do you deal with accidents, crazies, kleptos, and ragers? How do you deal with abuses of power, monopolies on violence, taxes, lynch mobs? How do you deal with poor basic communication or lofty ideals and complex ideas? Etc.

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How do you define "evil"? (Talk about simplistic.) That's why I use quotes. That's what they're for.

Defining shit is cute but it still doesn't even begin to close in on the question of the ORIGINS of this "evil". Start by understanding the workings of the human mind and then you will see. Until then, you are doomed to repeat the same mistakes as everybody else because you use the same referentials as everybody else.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

The egg came before chickens even existed.

Does a wolf or rabbit think it's evil when one is eaten?

"There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so." ~ Shakespeare.

Evil is a human invention, and it needs a clear definition before you trace whatever "origins" you think exist.

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If it's a human invention and it has no objective definition, then it is imaginary. Why on Earth would we base ANYTHING in our lives on imaginary things? That's not reality, Carswell.

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Most human lives are based on little more than imaginary things. As for the "why", my guess is it's because of the limited processing power.

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You mean EXISTENCE. Life is real. These are two very distinct things. One is notional, the other cannot be grasped by thought.

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OK I thought the need to distinguish between life and existence in this context was obvious, but maybe it is not.

When one uses the word "life" to mean "existence", they are de facto reducing their life and their notion of life, for the time of their reasoning on the topic at hand and the writing of their post, to that of existentialism.

Doing so, you get "lives are lived out of imagination" as an accepted truth, when in fact it is existence that is thus.

BUT: So long as we are talking about good and evil and the Rothschilds and politics and the cycle of tyranny - revolution - corruption - tyranny again, there is nothing within the domain of existentialism that can yield a social paradigm that escapes that aforementioned cycle of tyranny.

This can be evidenced by this tangent of the conversation, whereby "good" and "evil" are purely imaginary. This holds true only within existentialism, that is, a materialistic-rationalistic point of view that negates the realities pointed at within the actual meaning of the word "life".

Once we re-integrate these realities in the conversation by correcting "life" and "existentialism", the good vs evil definition becomes easy: good is life-affirming while evil is life-negating. In this context "life" is both the "much greater than existentialism" and "the continuation of biological processes of a being". Because they are both necessary to, well... Both life and existence.

This definition is sufficiently subtle that it can accommodate any situation and yield an objective judgment on an action, good or evil. Then the other piece of the puzzle is the honesty of the participants, but that's another matter.

I hope this clarifies what Mr. Carswell might construe as "Horrux likes to make up his own definitions and pedantly correct us for no reason, putting us down in the process" or whatever.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

Government authority is imaginary.

Value in money and things is imaginary.

Math, symbols, forms, and ideals are imaginary.

Imagination is important to our reality.

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Imagination is the source of our suffering. No more, no less.

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Government authority is imaginary.

But its enforcement is VERY real, so... Good luck with that one.

Value in money and things is imaginary.

Of course not. CURRENCY such as we have today, numbers inside computers, yes, these have imaginary value, but the entire systems are built upon them, so this unreality of it is hard to avoid.

Still, MONEY and THINGS have value that isn't imaginary. It can be calculated very precisely.

Math, symbols, forms, and ideals are imaginary.

Yes.

Imagination is important to our reality.

No, this is a mistake. There is no "our" or "my" or "their" to add to Reality. It is what it is, and it couldn't care less whether you even acknowledge its existence. Subjective "reality" is fiction, and it is the source of all suffering.

Most people are so invested in their fiction that they are ready to defend it with their very lives. To defend your own cage from that which would open it. Such is the occult slavery of man.

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WHAT makes people "evil"?

The definition of "evil" itself? We're competitive organisms, so our individual goals and desires don't necessarily align on a fundamental level. One way to define "evil" would be a mismatch between behaviors furthering our individual goals and behaviors furthering the goals of the "evil" perpetrator.

Another way to define behaviors considered "evil" is to subscribe to a set of religious beliefs, where behaviors in the category of "evil" are predefined for us. We all know which set of religious beliefs is correct, but are the subscribers to the off-brand belief-sets "evil" in intent, or only in effect?

But back to the WHAT; I'm going to suggest that the WHAT that makes people "evil" really comes down to ones perception of the intent and effects of the behaviors of others. It's not the behavior itself, it's the perception and judgement of the observer that makes it "evil". People themselves can't be "evil". Only the perception of the intent and/or effects of their behaviors can define "evil".

u/JasonCarswell

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

Agreed. That's why we need subjective definitions of what "evil" actually entails, that defines and IS the source.

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One way to define "evil" would be a mismatch between behaviors furthering our individual goals, and behaviors furthering the goals of the "evil" perpetrator.

Depends on what the definition of IS is... How does my above definition fail to impress?

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Depends on what the definition of IS is...

Mr. Clinton, I already said what it is, "subjective definitions of what "evil" actually entails". Horrux just wants to fight about his own definitions again, now trying to reinvent what "source" means, while belittling others.

One way to define "evil" would be a mismatch between behaviors furthering our individual goals and behaviors furthering the goals of the "evil" perpetrator.

Very good, along with the rest. I'd tweak it thusly...

I'd define "evil" as conflicting ideals, expressions, and actions between individuals and/or groups that are perceived to do harm, steal, or deceive. Mindless (systemic, mechanical, accidental, etc.) or malicious (intentional via greed, hate, etc.), the perception may be real or not, religious or not, clear or muddy, etc.

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conflicting ideals, expressions, and actions

All behaviors.

do harm, steal, or deceive.

All goal mismatches.

Perceptual inaccuracy isn't relevant, because the entity or individual doing the evil/not-evil analysis is basing their judgement on the data they possess, not data they lack.

what "source" means

First time I'm seeing this in this thread. What is this about? Source of what?

This exchange is an interesting microcosm of the topic at large, as perceptions of what constitutes reality and how it works appear to have some significant mismatches.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

conflicting ideals, expressions, and actions

All behaviors.

Ideals are not, but the others are, and I thought it worth separating talk from deeds as people often believe (ideals) or say one thing and to another.

do harm, steal, or deceive.

All goal mismatches.

Agreed technically, but IMO "goal mismatches" is soft and ambiguous, though perhaps better for others with their own subjective definitions that may or may not include my 3 broad strokes.

Perceptual inaccuracy isn't relevant, because the entity or individual doing the evil/not-evil analysis is basing their judgement on the data they possess, not data they lack.

I disagree. Few people think they're doing evil when they do it. They can justify it any way they like. If they never get caught doing evil in the forest does it make a sound? IMO, the term "evil" is usually wielded by someone not doing the alleged evil, and they may or may not have inaccurate perceptions (ie. faith, etc). Because no man is an island, we all live in society and have cultural norms, including concepts of "evil" - thus most of us simply behave when we get evil thoughts.

First time I'm seeing this in this thread. What is this about? Source of what?

Ask Horrux. He's the one who raised the questions, doesn't like the answers, and attempts to belittle you for being too simplistic for his simple question.

This exchange is an interesting microcosm of the topic at large, as perceptions of what constitutes reality and how it works appear to have some significant mismatches.

Indeed. They've dumbed down our education and communication (and social media with simplistic up/down votes), weaponized the mismatches, and limited, hijacked, or thrown monkey wrenches in our common /s/Terminology.

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Horrux just wants to fight about his own definitions again, now trying to reinvent what "source" means, while belittling others.

I object. I asked a question multiple times and you ignored it, then reproached me asking the question again. That is very disingenuous. I do not seek to belittle anybody, but when you go around ignoring my participation and then nagging about the questions I ask, you were simply asking for it.

Here is a much better definition of good and evil that communists will always object to: Good is life-affirming, and evil is life-negating. Earendil came up with that, I think. And it matches my own definition, although I had never worded it like that.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Good is life-affirming, and evil is life-negating.

It's not a new or unique definition. It's simplistic and good.

Again, it's subjective. What is "life-affirming"? What about neutral things that are neither affirming or negating, in part or in whole? Is a TV evil? No - it's a piece of furniture. Is the TV programming evil? Are education TV documentaries evil? Are documentaries on war and evil deeds evil?

You complain about being simple. You're complaining about yourself.

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That's why we need subjective definitions of what "evil" actually entails

Needing subjective definition implies there is no objective reality behind the term "evil". This means that "evil" is wholly imaginary and should in no way be part of anybody's views on how to structure their lives.

This is once again the implicit point of view of communists, of which I declare you to be a closet case. You espouse so many views that match that doctrine perfectly, you may not know yourself to be a communist but you seem to share everything with them. But go ahead, reassure me and demonstrate that you are not. Or that you are, I couldn't care less...

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

there is no objective reality behind the term "evil"

Yes. It it subjective.

This means that "evil" is wholly imaginary and

No. You've added your subjective meaning. And still you've not defined it nor its source.

and should in no way be part of anybody's views on how to structure their lives.

Again, you've added your subjective interpretation of what to do with the concept of "evil".

Why must people structure their lives? And what makes you their authority that says so?

This is once again the implicit point of view of communists,

Yet you are the one who advocates for totalitarian central national government under a great leader. The more you scream about commies the more I think you are one.

you may not know yourself to be a communist but you seem to share everything with them.

Outrageous claims require outrageous proof.

I'm a self-professed voluntaryist/anarchist, who rather than liking top-down privatized corporations supports bottom-up organizations like co-operatives (1/3 of Marx's socialism!!!) and decentralization of ALL things (tech, banking, government, defense, etc) rather than centralized government control, commies or not.

But go ahead, reassure me and demonstrate that you are not.

I don't owe you anything.

I couldn't care less...

If that were true you wouldn't keep accusing people of it.

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Oh, you are of the materialistic-rationalistic school if thought that implies that man is but an animal like any other, with a bit of a bigger brain. Well obviously from such a standpoint, no more discussion on the topic can be had, for it's all chemical reactions in our brains, therefore actually evil does NOT exist. Morality is imaginary, and that's the end of the story.

Now where's my flamethrower, I met some people I didn't like. Wait, I'm not from that school of thought.

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Eliminating the chemical reactions in our brains would seem to make further discussion fairly difficult.

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Yes. Funny.

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Not just funny, chemical reactions in our brains are our entry point to the reality of this place. Unless I'm missing a different school of thought?

man is ███ an animal like any other, with a bit of a bigger brain.

Observations appear to verify that humans are a mammal species, and that their brains are more powerful than most. The "but" part is a stretch, and it seems likely there is also a spirit or soul that animates the mammalian bodies we inhabit.

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Chemical reactions ARE ASSOCIATED WITH "our entry point to the 'reality' of this place." Causation has not, cannot and will never be demonstrated.

Yes, we do possess immaterial components of a much greater order than any other "animal" species. This is knowable in the absolute sense. A mind properly unshackled can palpate these components.

"Evil" has worked tirelessly for millennia to dull our minds, make us ever more animalized, and to cut off our consciousness from the whole of reality. They've done a great job, to the point where relatively intelligent people hold for truth that we are ordinarh animals with a slightly bigger brain and opposing thumbs, that chemical reactions in our brains are the whole of the impression of consciousness, and that the only reality is that of physical matter.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

it amplifies inherent personality and behavioral traits.

Truth. But who among us is perfect? We've all most of us have got a price.

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Objection. I say we are all perfect, but the thoughts in our minds are not. Prove otherwise. =D

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No one is perfect. We all have flaws and limitations, pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses. Our minds are a part of our bodies.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=birth+defects&iar=images

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Nope. We are all perfect, only our minds are infected by that shit called "evil" and see flaws and limitations, pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses. When in fact there is only perfection.

That is the original sin itself: "THE UNDERSTANDING OF GOOD AND EVIL." Without it, we would all realize we are and have always been perfect, the rest is just illusion.

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Animals are perfect as they are. Humans understand differently. Imagination is important.

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Imagination is the doorway through which "evil" penetrates into the human mind. "Evil" happens because humans believe the thoughts inside their heads, when there has never been any proof that this shit we call "thought" and especially "MY thoughts" are in any way ... ours.

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Imagination is the doorway through which "evil" penetrates into the human mind. "Evil" happens because humans believe the thoughts inside their heads, when there has never been any proof that this shit we call "thought" and especially "MY thoughts" are in any way ... ours.

"Evil" is a subjective human invention with judgementalism extending beyond "bad". If you want to call human inventions "doorways of the imagination" go for it, but few will understand you. Even if I've been influenced, adopted, and/or copied others, "my thoughts" are my own and you cannot prove otherwise because my brain only fits in my head, where my thoughts reside.

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I have some perfectionist qualities, but am clearly not perfect. To be technically perfect is unachievable for inhabitants of a mortal coil, price or not.

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To be technically perfect is unachievable for inhabitants of a mortal coil, price or not.

Exactly.

Power doesn’t necessarily corrupt.

A modicum of power may be efficacious, but absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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How do you define absolute power? Does this mean God, the only entity with absolute power, is corrupt?

And how is corruption defined? The owner of a restaurant might be judged as corrupt if they don't provide free food to homeless bums. They have absolute power in the context of their business, but corruption is a matter of perception.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

How do you define absolute power?

"With great power comes great responsibility." Without responsibility, accountability, consistency, liability, ramifications, penalties, etc. you have unaccountable corrupt power absolutely and bullshit like the Hanlon's razor excuse, "Oops, we weren't malicious, we were just incompetent."

Does this mean God, the only entity with absolute power, is corrupt?

Absolutely myth.

Epicurean paradox: God either cares for us but is impotent or is omnipotent and doesn't give a shit about our suffering.

And how is corruption defined?

Harm, theft, deception, unfairness - especially when there are understood protocols (laws, contracts, social norms, etc). A normal non-extravagant person who works a job and still can't pay the bills is in a corrupt system.

The owner of a restaurant might be judged as corrupt if they don't provide free food to homeless bums.

Is that in their social contract and purview? Charity is beyond just being fair.

Major industries that extract natural resources from our shared national lands might be judged as corrupt if they don't provide free food to homeless bums - or if they don't properly deal with their environmental destruction and externalized wastes.

They have absolute power in the context of their business, but corruption is a matter of perception.

A small or medium business has only so much power, responsibility, and obligation. Franchises even less. They should absolutely be fair to their employees, customers, and associates.

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God either cares for us but is impotent or is omnipotent and doesn't give a shit about our suffering.

Sounds like a reddit atheist proclamation. You see how narrow minded that is, right?

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Sounds like a reddit atheist proclamation.

It's the Epicurean paradox. I didn't make it up, but I sure do like it.

You see how narrow minded that is, right?

Besides the either/or ultimatum and absence of accounting for "lessons" the evil fucking imaginary sky myth wants to teach/instill/inflict on us? No. God is absurd authoritarian bullshit.

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Epicurean paradox: God either cares for us but is impotent or is omnipotent and doesn't give a shit about our suffering.

Wrong on both counts. This is a case of a smaller system (the human mind) trying to encompass a greater system (the mind of "God").

This is the reality of it, and once again I couldn't care less that you believe otherwise, you or anybody else. I just write what is, that's all:

"God" (yes quotes again. I use them when I baby-talk the Reality of a phenomenon using a word that, erm, "normal human mind" can understand) is omnipotent AND cares AND understands that our suffering is purely self-inflicted.

"God's" goal for us is to let us attain the glory of figuring this out BY OURSELVES, for if the state of mind that allows one to see this were given to anybody, it would be akin to giving fish but not teaching how to fish, so to speak.

It wouldn't be human glory, it would be fucking CHARITY. And if charity isn't an insult, I don't know what is. "God's" goal for man is to have him get himself to where he can commingle with the Absolutes that make up the Objective Reality of the universe and life, thus becoming essentially all-knowing, and over time, omnipotent.

This goal is deemed important and valuable enough that we have chosen to come to Earth with a blank mind and suffer through the blind stumbling about we need to do in order to eventually learn to orient ourselves and make greater and greater sense of life and the universe. We have readily and willfully accepted the suffering that is part of our existence, manipulated and enslaved by "demonic" forces, in order to hopefully attain this most worthy of goals.

Of course, any mind that transcends the intellectual/intuitive continuum that defines pretty much all human minds, knows full well that "God" doesn't exist. But the word serves.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Fuck all Gods.

Fuck all religions.

Fuck all governments.

Fuck all corporations.

Fuck all authorities.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It's worse than that, and you've overlooked the most important part of my statement - the evil systems that evil people build that hide their evil from the masses while pretending to be good. This is institutionalized and industrialized Machiavellianism.

Why? Because they're selfish and they can. Why not?

Plus they have no regard for Natural Law nor ethics/morality. Predators gonna predat.

Plus the evil systems build in excuses for everyone involved to believe they're not to blame or part of the problem.

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Extremely oversimplified. Until you understand the inner workings of thought, pleasure, ego, pride, hubris and all these components, you are doomed to repeat the same shit as everybody else ever did: Revolution, then new assholes to shit on the rest.

It's. Always. The. Same. Thing. Over. And. Over.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Extremely oversimplified.

As is your question. Over. And. Over.

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Your failure to even understand said question doesn't mean it's oversimplified. It means YOUR MIND is comparatively oversimplified. I am afraid, Jason, that all these matters are above your "pay grade".

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You get what you pay for.

Insulting people on this forum proves you're not worthy of my time and energy.

Throw money at me and I might compliment your pathetic insults.

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You're trolling me by avoiding the question, or is it that you can't understand it? Choose one, and let's talk about it.

Either "evil" (yes I use quotes because that is just a word. I use words. To communicate. We have not defined it with absolute precision, but let's just use the WORD for starters.) is objectively real or its originating phenomena are, and it needs to be factored into anybody's outlook on life, or it is imaginary, and needs to be as much a basis for our way of life as the tooth fairy.

You got a 3rd option? LOL... Let's hear it.