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[–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

How do you define absolute power? Does this mean God, the only entity with absolute power, is corrupt?

And how is corruption defined? The owner of a restaurant might be judged as corrupt if they don't provide free food to homeless bums. They have absolute power in the context of their business, but corruption is a matter of perception.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

How do you define absolute power?

"With great power comes great responsibility." Without responsibility, accountability, consistency, liability, ramifications, penalties, etc. you have unaccountable corrupt power absolutely and bullshit like the Hanlon's razor excuse, "Oops, we weren't malicious, we were just incompetent."

Does this mean God, the only entity with absolute power, is corrupt?

Absolutely myth.

Epicurean paradox: God either cares for us but is impotent or is omnipotent and doesn't give a shit about our suffering.

And how is corruption defined?

Harm, theft, deception, unfairness - especially when there are understood protocols (laws, contracts, social norms, etc). A normal non-extravagant person who works a job and still can't pay the bills is in a corrupt system.

The owner of a restaurant might be judged as corrupt if they don't provide free food to homeless bums.

Is that in their social contract and purview? Charity is beyond just being fair.

Major industries that extract natural resources from our shared national lands might be judged as corrupt if they don't provide free food to homeless bums - or if they don't properly deal with their environmental destruction and externalized wastes.

They have absolute power in the context of their business, but corruption is a matter of perception.

A small or medium business has only so much power, responsibility, and obligation. Franchises even less. They should absolutely be fair to their employees, customers, and associates.

[–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

God either cares for us but is impotent or is omnipotent and doesn't give a shit about our suffering.

Sounds like a reddit atheist proclamation. You see how narrow minded that is, right?

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Sounds like a reddit atheist proclamation.

It's the Epicurean paradox. I didn't make it up, but I sure do like it.

You see how narrow minded that is, right?

Besides the either/or ultimatum and absence of accounting for "lessons" the evil fucking imaginary sky myth wants to teach/instill/inflict on us? No. God is absurd authoritarian bullshit.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Besides the either/or ultimatum and absence of accounting for "lessons"

Exactly. Some lessons are challenging, and require a bit of what could be termed 'suffering'. There's even a non-religious meme about suffering and its relationship to results: No pain, no gain.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You do not need an imaginary sky God to perceive and receive lessons from life.

"No pain, no gain. Life is suffering." ~ Buddha

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Epicurean paradox: God either cares for us but is impotent or is omnipotent and doesn't give a shit about our suffering.

Wrong on both counts. This is a case of a smaller system (the human mind) trying to encompass a greater system (the mind of "God").

This is the reality of it, and once again I couldn't care less that you believe otherwise, you or anybody else. I just write what is, that's all:

"God" (yes quotes again. I use them when I baby-talk the Reality of a phenomenon using a word that, erm, "normal human mind" can understand) is omnipotent AND cares AND understands that our suffering is purely self-inflicted.

"God's" goal for us is to let us attain the glory of figuring this out BY OURSELVES, for if the state of mind that allows one to see this were given to anybody, it would be akin to giving fish but not teaching how to fish, so to speak.

It wouldn't be human glory, it would be fucking CHARITY. And if charity isn't an insult, I don't know what is. "God's" goal for man is to have him get himself to where he can commingle with the Absolutes that make up the Objective Reality of the universe and life, thus becoming essentially all-knowing, and over time, omnipotent.

This goal is deemed important and valuable enough that we have chosen to come to Earth with a blank mind and suffer through the blind stumbling about we need to do in order to eventually learn to orient ourselves and make greater and greater sense of life and the universe. We have readily and willfully accepted the suffering that is part of our existence, manipulated and enslaved by "demonic" forces, in order to hopefully attain this most worthy of goals.

Of course, any mind that transcends the intellectual/intuitive continuum that defines pretty much all human minds, knows full well that "God" doesn't exist. But the word serves.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Fuck all Gods.

Fuck all religions.

Fuck all governments.

Fuck all corporations.

Fuck all authorities.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree. Anything new you wanna share?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No.