Jacob Rothschild: "Covid is a distraction from climate change"

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[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

The egg came before chickens even existed.

Does a wolf or rabbit think it's evil when one is eaten?

"There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so." ~ Shakespeare.

Evil is a human invention, and it needs a clear definition before you trace whatever "origins" you think exist.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

If it's a human invention and it has no objective definition, then it is imaginary. Why on Earth would we base ANYTHING in our lives on imaginary things? That's not reality, Carswell.

[–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Most human lives are based on little more than imaginary things. As for the "why", my guess is it's because of the limited processing power.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You mean EXISTENCE. Life is real. These are two very distinct things. One is notional, the other cannot be grasped by thought.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My limited processing power strikes again... What's the connection between my comment and your reply?

Where do I mean EXISTENCE instead of whatever I said? And what exactly is the distinction you're referencing between existence and life? Like, the difference between rocks and ongoing organic processes?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know man, mercury destroys the brain. I wish I were still smart. Something like your reference about rocks and organic processes, only on a more abstract plane.

Existence is material: events in your day, your movements in the world, your occupation, your hobbies, where you call home, the daily stuff.

Life is the story that emerges from existence, a sort of meta-existence if you will: The process of turning the mind of the person you were when you were born into the mind you've had before, have now and will have at later times. This "story" if you will, describes an evolutionary trajectory which you may call Life.

Also, this evolutionary trajectory, insofar as somebody has the ability to grasp its substance and meaning, can readily be extrapolated into the past and future. That is an interesting but somewhat separate topic. Suffice it to say that Life is a process that mostly happens beyond what most humans call "their mind," since it is the progression of said mind towards its ultimate goal. Grasping this requires metamind or supermind. These are all quite real, but understood by only a very few.

Still, it is my life's work to bring people to grasp these facts of their beings, so I need to talk about them, if only to bring some perspective to what are otherwise dimensionally truncated, and therefore sterile, discussions about life and existence.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

OK I thought the need to distinguish between life and existence in this context was obvious, but maybe it is not.

When one uses the word "life" to mean "existence", they are de facto reducing their life and their notion of life, for the time of their reasoning on the topic at hand and the writing of their post, to that of existentialism.

Doing so, you get "lives are lived out of imagination" as an accepted truth, when in fact it is existence that is thus.

BUT: So long as we are talking about good and evil and the Rothschilds and politics and the cycle of tyranny - revolution - corruption - tyranny again, there is nothing within the domain of existentialism that can yield a social paradigm that escapes that aforementioned cycle of tyranny.

This can be evidenced by this tangent of the conversation, whereby "good" and "evil" are purely imaginary. This holds true only within existentialism, that is, a materialistic-rationalistic point of view that negates the realities pointed at within the actual meaning of the word "life".

Once we re-integrate these realities in the conversation by correcting "life" and "existentialism", the good vs evil definition becomes easy: good is life-affirming while evil is life-negating. In this context "life" is both the "much greater than existentialism" and "the continuation of biological processes of a being". Because they are both necessary to, well... Both life and existence.

This definition is sufficiently subtle that it can accommodate any situation and yield an objective judgment on an action, good or evil. Then the other piece of the puzzle is the honesty of the participants, but that's another matter.

I hope this clarifies what Mr. Carswell might construe as "Horrux likes to make up his own definitions and pedantly correct us for no reason, putting us down in the process" or whatever.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

Government authority is imaginary.

Value in money and things is imaginary.

Math, symbols, forms, and ideals are imaginary.

Imagination is important to our reality.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Imagination is the source of our suffering. No more, no less.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

And our joy.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

It is the source of EMOTION which is all on a spectrum of suffering.

Joy is always only attained in spontaneity, and spontaneity is only ever attained when thought and emotion are silenced.

Which is why joy is mostly a thing in little children, before they get brainwashed into accepting "thought" as their own.

THAT is the source of evil by the way: Believing the thoughts in your head.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Joy is always only attained in spontaneity, and spontaneity is only ever attained when thought and emotion are silenced.

You confuse momentary fleeting happiness with long lasting joy that comes via fulfillment. The former is easy but ever elusive, the latter takes effort with purpose.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=happiness+vs+joy

THAT is the source of evil by the way: Believing the thoughts in your head.

This is absurd, unless you're talking with schizos.

You have strong beliefs so you have that source of evil, and you are a Nazi - thus Nazis believe in evil. /s

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I hold no beliefs to speak of. See, it's fairly easy to get rid of any and all beliefs if you know what to look for and how to do it. Once you do that, you can see Reality and it is a wildly different place than the hallucinatory fiction most peole exist within.

And no, I don't confuse fleeting momentary "happiness" with joy. I am very well acquainted with joy.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I hold no beliefs to speak of.

Again with the absolutes. Do you believe you are human? Male? Canadian? A fascist? Whether right or wrong or nebulous, your opinions, beliefs, biases, faith, etc. as your subjective understandings and perceptions do exist - and "reality" is much grander than we can ever possibly know, and it's also inherently always subjectively limited.

the hallucinatory fiction most peole exist within.

We're all delusional in countless ways, including you. 1

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

OK keep your beliefs dude, I'm done with you. Maybe someday we'll meet face to face, and I will force the end of thought on your mind. That will be a hoot. Probably take you years to get over it.

And YES, ABSOLUTES. I'm pointing at the fact that it's POSSIBLE for the human mind to commingle with the ABSOLUTE OBJECTIVE REALITY. But you keep on fictioning your existence, since that's so dear to you.

Human? My body is. My mind, definitely not. Or yours isn't. There is a vast gulf separating these.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Government authority is imaginary.

But its enforcement is VERY real, so... Good luck with that one.

Value in money and things is imaginary.

Of course not. CURRENCY such as we have today, numbers inside computers, yes, these have imaginary value, but the entire systems are built upon them, so this unreality of it is hard to avoid.

Still, MONEY and THINGS have value that isn't imaginary. It can be calculated very precisely.

Math, symbols, forms, and ideals are imaginary.

Yes.

Imagination is important to our reality.

No, this is a mistake. There is no "our" or "my" or "their" to add to Reality. It is what it is, and it couldn't care less whether you even acknowledge its existence. Subjective "reality" is fiction, and it is the source of all suffering.

Most people are so invested in their fiction that they are ready to defend it with their very lives. To defend your own cage from that which would open it. Such is the occult slavery of man.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Why on Earth would we base ANYTHING in our lives on imaginary things?

Government authority is imaginary.

But its enforcement is VERY real, so... Good luck with that one.

My point is proven.
I rest my case.

Imagination is important to our reality.

No, this is a mistake.

And again, you revert to retardation for your entrenched judgmental polarized stance against the abstract concept of "imagination".

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Jason Carswell: "I took drugs that took me to a greater state of consciousness."

Me: "My greater state of consciousness says [things]."

Jason Carswell: "I deny any possibility of your so-called 'greater' state of consciousness."

I rest my case.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Jason Carswell: "I deny any possibility of your so-called 'greater' state of consciousness."

I did NOT say that at all.

Your reality is twisted and it's trying to twist things to fit it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yes, I agree, you did not type these exact words in this exact sequence. But you are playing games: about half your replies to me lately have the undertext of precisely the meaning between those quotes.

You want to deny it? Fine, deny it. Anybody who followed our exchanges and has a modicum of honesty is going to recognize precisely what I state.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

the undertext of precisely the meaning between those quotes.

Incorrect.

You think in extreme absolutes.

Jason Carswell: "I deny any possibility of your so-called 'greater' state of consciousness."

1) "Any possibility" is absolute. I avoid them unless I'm absolutely certain.

2) I don't deny people their subjective perspectives.

3) I'm not denying that we've both had subjective experiences.

4) I'm not denying that they seemed real.

5) I've ONLY said they were all in our heads - and thus not "real".

6) Imagination is a vital part of our consciousness.

Your consciousness supremacy is boring and tiresome. I'm done with you today.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ah, because expressing that there is such a thing as a scientifically demonstrated process that leads to the attainment of a greater state of consciousness, as well as what can be perceived from such a state is "consciousness supremacy."

You deny objective reality, therefore you deny the possibility of a greater state that allows one to be in communion with said objective reality. Same difference. You are a fanatic. A fanatic of your dogma and religion of subjectivity.

"My subjectivity is more real than objectivity, and if you say the contrary I'll get REALLY pissed." GLHF.