you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

The question is why was it tried but failed so many times in the past and why did we not ever actually invade syria yet like we did Iraq? Syria has russia as an ally and they have nukes so they need to make a deal. Same with how we all know china released a bioweapon but they have nukes so we can't do anything.

We do have forces in the north of syria which Trump never removed, I think it'll just stay there and be a stalmate for the next few years.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The question is why was it tried but failed so many times in the past

It's a good question. I think the reason is that they had such firm and organized support that it was too difficult. This time around they might be fatigued and fractured enough that such an attack would be successful. Also they're fighting both Turkey and any additional invasions simultaneously now, which has potentially spread them thin. They just defeated ISIS a couple years ago so they're in a regrouping phase. And then Northern Syria is just getting established, which didn't even exist a few years ago, and their military the SDF. And even though northern and southern Syria have been warring, they suddenly teamed up to defend Turkey, and now there's southern Syria troops all throughout northern Syria.

If both Turkey and Southern Syria are supported by Russia... then Northern Syria is letting Russia in, to help defend against attacks from Russia... do you see? This makes Northern Syria quite vulnerable now, so it's possible their collapse is in the cards.

There's a lot of moving parts

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

it's kind of a proxy war where neither USA or russia wants to "win" they like the stalemate and it's mainly done to effect world oil prices

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

it's mainly done to effect world oil prices

As Trump explicitly explained.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes that's also another way to look at it. A human garbage disposal where they send the violent to die, and also consume lots of expensive resources which is profitable, they don't want it to end

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yes constant war is for getting rid of the young men that might revolt

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

They just defeated ISIS a couple years ago so

Trump killed the CIA operatives that ran ISIS in Syria, with the 'missing' missiles from the airport strike.

expect to see ISIS return, if Biden is allowed

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

expect to see ISIS return, if Biden is allowed

Yup I called this in the OP as well.

Trump killed the CIA operatives that ran ISIS in Syria, with the 'missing' missiles from the airport strike.

Interesting hypothesis. I initially disagreed, but even looking at this map it was about late 2016 (Trumps election) when the tide turned for ISIS according to this animated map: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToxfSPfbx2E

Trump was pretty regularly undermining the military-industrial complex... I hadn't connected those dots about that being the reason ISIS collapsed, but it does make a fair deal of sense.

That would doubly reinforce the idea that we'll see the rise of ISIS again. They've probably turned the funding/arming spigot on already and are just waiting for it to pool up

[–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

the whole airfield play was interesting. To have such a large number of highly accurate missiles "miss", and "miss" by massive distances, and then have very low key reporting on who they killed, means that they hit targets that no one wanted to talk about, therefore CIA. follows from the CIA response to his "get rid of the (fifth) columns" CIA speech. (cheering, from analysts, about architecture!).

But that is why i said "allowed". I get the feeling that a deep purge of the CIA occurred, and it will be interesting to see if the swamp side still have any agents left. I'm keeping an eye out for actual CIA and Military changes, as opposed to all the EO bluster. Biden might indeed be locked out of them

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Interesting. I regarded the airfield play, and the MOAB thing, as Trump using up MIC equipment so the MIC is happy, while not actually killing or endangering any humans. Which I thought was actually quite smart in a lot of ways. Checks all the boxes for MIC equipment sales and usage, without causing any real suffering.

I got the impression the CIA and Trump didn't really like each other too much though, and they're happy to have Biden back in office so they can go back to the regular playbook. Is that also your impression?

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I recommend his CIA speech at the beginning of his presidency. the loyal CIA love him...

Checks all the boxes for MIC equipment sales and usage, without causing any real suffering.

I'm with you there. Looks like it was an arranged show with Russia, and the casualties at the airfield were accidental. Still, find the old news on missing missiles...