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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It is true, and you should go do some training if you want to be educated. Unruly animals can be calmed down. How the fuck do you think cowboys do their work? How the fuck do you think dog trainers avoid getting bitten?

I'm certified to train dogs. My family breeds dogs, high end dogs though, not violent pits.

Still, if the pitbull hasn't been tortured by it's retarded owners, then it has the ability to be calmed down. This is the truth of the matter.

You can pull up dog-biting incidents which will only prove my point. Most dogs who bite are either biting out of a jaded sense of self preservation (they don't understand humans) or they have been trained to do so. Shitty caretaking is a form of training, more like torture, which most pitbulls have lived through since they are owned primarily by poor people with no brain cells.

Still, dogs can be calmed down. Animals can be calmed down. This is fact. Cops should get training for this.

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It's not true.

Pit bulls are notorious for chimping out unprovoked and mauling people to death. They make up around 70% of all US human deaths by dogs.

Focusing on the portion of dogs that conform to your model, while ignoring the portion who don't, is not proper analysis. It's ignorance.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I really think you should reread my comments. We aren't in major disagreement. I think you have something against everything related to blacks, yin.

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Spend some time with actual animals, rather than reading studies. The evidence supports my conclusion, not yours. I'm speaking from experience, not internet research.

    Animals can be calmed down unless they've been conditioned in a negative or violent way. Simple as that.

    Humans are more complex.

    [–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    That's not true. No amount of nurturing prevents a certain percentage from following through on their core animal impulses, especially when it concerns pit bulls or any other animal with the physical and mental disposition of being able to kill humans. Your personal experiences are completely meaningless when the existence of even just one single instance of what I speak of defies your personal anecdotes.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    No, what you are talking about are singular instances, I'm talking about averages. The average pit bull can be conditioned in a positive manners such that they won't bite under normal conditions. Nothing about their genetics can stop that conditioning. Wow, such a hard thing to prove, right? No, it's incredibly easy, go take some training courses and become educated.

    I'm not a liberal. I don't think that just because animals can be trained and conditioned that humans can be. I've seen you talking about nurture/culture issues before. You aren't wrong about that, when it concerns humans. However, every cowboy would disagree with you, every dog trainer would.

    The thing is, your argument is predicated on cherry picking. The majority of dog biting incidents are caused by 1. Stupid humans messing with untrained dogs, or 2. Stupid humans messing with violent tortured dogs.

    My experiences cannot be explained away so easily. If what I am talking about was false, dog training wouldnt work, cattle wrangling wouldn't work, and teaching apes sign language would be a death sentence.

    Even when it comes to humans, this holds water. I should expect every single white missionary to come home with bruises and burned buttholes from all the beatings and rapes. Sometimes that is the case. For the vast majority, it isn't.

    I don't disagree with you about base traits based off of genetics. However, genetics are only one part of what dictates our behavior. I would argue it is only a major part with dumb animals, like most modern humans, and pit bulls. Therefore, you can cherry pick data all day long and feel justified.

    You can rehabilitate almost anything, except for the most debased and violent of people. Individual people, not groups.

    You are going down the same path the Jew went down, just on the other lane.