How bad do you think the new matrix movie will suck

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

honestly good post.

I didn't like the sequels but on that point I can agree with your opinion that they're good because it all comes down to taste. I didn't like how it depowered neo and didn't explain anything but can admit they had good aspects.

I didn't see Dune but I saw Spiderman and agree it was pretty good. It had a lot of fan service and that's a good thing. It had plot holes which is my minor complaint but it's overall a great movie.

Yeah I'm mainly worried about the new Matrix sucking because it will be too woke, based on the trailer I saw. But a secondary worry is it will be more like the 2 previous sequels, not making sense, contradicting the first movie, and having a lame ending. Also I find it weird that they recast Morpheus and Agent Smith, seemingly not contacting their actors to be in the movie, and just to save money. That might not be true and they do appear in the movie though, like how the spider man actors had denied they would be in the movie and then they were.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I didn't like how it depowered neo and didn't explain anything but can admit they had good aspects.

If you're seeking explanation the commentary is rich with symbolic breakdowns and analysis. It's edifying even if it doesn't satisfy your itch.

_ It had a lot of fan service and that's a good thing. It had plot holes which is my minor complaint but it's overall a great movie._

Fan service is only as good as its meaning and execution. The Star Wars sequel trilogy was full of (sh)it and was completely botched. I could list dozens of other examples. What were the Spider-Man plot holes? I was stoned and tired last night and wasn't paying much attention, and intend to see it again in a clean resolution.

the 2 previous sequels, not making sense, contradicting the first movie, and having a lame ending.

Well like that's your opinion man. But I agree on some counts on some levels and I also understand the growth and expansion of many other broader concepts, though not really deeper. I also always had some issues with the first, so I was never expecting perfection.

Also I find it weird that they recast Morpheus and Agent Smith, seemingly not contacting their actors to be in the movie, and just to save money.

Seemingly. This sounds like you're speculating. Unless you've got verifiable reports. Obviously practical and creative choices were made and hopefully will be plausible, just like the change in the Oracle.

the spider man actors had denied they would be in the movie and then they were.

Epic and masterfully executed. Shame they all had to lie about it. Why not just say nothing?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

they depowered him cuz it wouldn't make sense for him to have a fair fight with agent smith if he could easily beat him again, so it had no reason other than letting them have more fight scenes

the star wars sequels didn't have fan service which was part of the problem

if you're watching it stoned yeah you might miss things

were you stoned watching the matrix sequels? Might explain your weird opinion on them that you haven't explained. You're way too furious about shitty movies. Stop talking about needing verified reports about something I clearly said we don't know for sure yet. Clown.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think he was depowered. I think Smith was liberated and empowered.

the star wars sequels didn't have fan service which was part of the problem

False. Star Wars sequels completely botched their abundant derivative boring and woke-ified fan service. The worst: Why have Luke, Han, and Leia in the movie - and not even have them in a reunion scene all together?

if you're watching it stoned yeah you might miss things

Just the new Spiderman which I only watched once, while tired, and it was a shitty CAM version. I can't count how many times I've seen the Matrix movies.

Resorting to name-calling to defend your baseless speculations about an art form inherently subjectively appreciated while still a proven popular blockbuster media franchise and a source of notable foundational meme-able concepts doesn't make me the clown in this discussion.