Intellectual honesty is a crime on Reddit

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[–]clownworlddropout[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Mental problems that went untreated because her caregivers sold her snake oil instead!

We're creating a mental health crisis in these kids by teaching them they can be "in the wrong body," which is a lie, and our for-profit medical industry is all too eager to send them down the transsembly line.

There are people out there that mimic the opposite sex, but that doesn't make "trans" a real thing, there are no "trans people" and certainly no "trans kids." It's something someones does not what someone is.

Picture a young girl just entering puberty that feels uncomfortable in her own skin (what a shock), and maybe she's a little on the masculine side or maybe she likes girls. Gender ideology pops it's ugly little pinhead up and whispers "you were born wrong" into her ear, tells her she needs to be fixed and that if she can't be fixed she's expected to kill herself. You see how that's a problem? A problem created by the same people selling the "solution?"

[–]bootylicious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm actually quite concerned with the trend whereby children want to determine their sexual orientation before they're 18, and the tolerance of that idiocy.

What makes matters worse is the politicization of that problem, for the sake of additional Republican votes.

We agree entirely that there is a serious problem.

I'm not going to agree with anyone that a person can be murdered by gender ideology.

[–]clownworlddropout[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Gender ideology put the idea in her head that she could pull a Pinocchio and become a real boy, that "transitioning" would solve her problems. If she wasn't fed these lies maybe she wouldn't even have had the mental problems she ended up with, maybe she wouldn't have felt something was wrong with her body if she wasn't taught the lie that a person can be "in the wrong body" to begin with. At the very least if her doctors didn't kowtow to gender ideology and actually helped her instead of enabling her own self-destruction she may not have killed herself.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There are at least 6 common mental disorders, and numerous ways to piss off a kid. If I were to say a kid's interest in Barbie dolls caused her suicide because she had Anorexia nervosa or just because she thought she was fat, I'd be wrong, just as wrong if I assumed a kid killed herself because she didn't like not being a boy. It's normally impossible to claim that a person killed her/himself because of ONE problem. The girl you mention required psychological treatment. It's that simple. Her lack of ability to get well is what caused her suicide.

[–]clownworlddropout[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure buddy, but maybe not if Barbie kidnapped her from her home and fed her drugs that made her vagina atrophy and put hair on her chest when she was fucking 16.

[–]BobOki 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The difference is Barbie dolls don't have an entire community and industry around her telling everyone that being hilariously unhealthy skinny is totally safe and as healthy as a tattoo. And not even to that point, there HAVE been girls that suicided BECAUSE they could not get the barbie body, so really you just killed your own argument.

Look at it like this. If you cousin is in the army and the army brainwashes him into thinking that because he is in the US ARMY he is literally invincible and the authority and everyone else not American is a nazi.. then he goes in battle the first time and decides to rush the enemy straight on and gets lit up, you would say the army killed him. If he was basically lied to, then he follow what he was told, then he suffers for it, then fault lies on who lied to him. And, to dodge semantics, yes of course he is not blame free either, he still chose to listen and made the choice to believe, but again we tend to blame the abuser, not the abused.

Now to your second point, having mental problems is certainly not the fault of the lgb community, but if that community is telling her that her issue is she thinks subconsciously that she is a really a guy or a lesbian and permanently changing herself will solve any of the mental issues she has, well that is the communities fault, and when this girl did all this and NOTHING changed or even got worse because it was never true and she was lied to... well now that just might push someone who is mentally unstable and has been told she is whole now, just might do something extreme to themselves. That is how a community kills someone.