Intellectual honesty is a crime on Reddit

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[–]BobOki 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Give evidence to literally anything you stated. Shouting at the clouds and asserting things without a shred of evidence is not debate, it is Reddit.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

The evidence was providede by the OP, genuis. It's an illogical argument, as I point out.

[–]BobOki 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I'll ask one more time to provide actual evidence to your claims that it is not intellectual, it's not honest, and it's not a crime. Evidence that her daughter did not committing suicide due the cancer of ideology, that this is a broad assumption, and ridiculous. Really, every single word you typed is unsubstantiated and a opinion, therefore supply evidence or you are arguing in bad faith and that is against the ToS for this site.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I'll ask one more time

And the answer one final time: I've made a logic argument.

[–]clownworlddropout[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This girl had mental problems, she wasn't "trans," there's no such thing as "trans." The sex-change industry is a cure looking for a disease, nobody needs to change sex. She was fed the lie that people can change sex and that doing so could fix her, if she wasn't lied to she could have gotten real help for her mental problems and not lead down a path of self-destruction. She was murdered by gender ideology.

[–]bootylicious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

She was murdered by gender ideology.

No, she was not.

As you note, she "had mental problems."

And, yes, there are people who 'transition'.

[–]clownworlddropout[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Mental problems that went untreated because her caregivers sold her snake oil instead!

We're creating a mental health crisis in these kids by teaching them they can be "in the wrong body," which is a lie, and our for-profit medical industry is all too eager to send them down the transsembly line.

There are people out there that mimic the opposite sex, but that doesn't make "trans" a real thing, there are no "trans people" and certainly no "trans kids." It's something someones does not what someone is.

Picture a young girl just entering puberty that feels uncomfortable in her own skin (what a shock), and maybe she's a little on the masculine side or maybe she likes girls. Gender ideology pops it's ugly little pinhead up and whispers "you were born wrong" into her ear, tells her she needs to be fixed and that if she can't be fixed she's expected to kill herself. You see how that's a problem? A problem created by the same people selling the "solution?"

[–]bootylicious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm actually quite concerned with the trend whereby children want to determine their sexual orientation before they're 18, and the tolerance of that idiocy.

What makes matters worse is the politicization of that problem, for the sake of additional Republican votes.

We agree entirely that there is a serious problem.

I'm not going to agree with anyone that a person can be murdered by gender ideology.

[–]clownworlddropout[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Gender ideology put the idea in her head that she could pull a Pinocchio and become a real boy, that "transitioning" would solve her problems. If she wasn't fed these lies maybe she wouldn't even have had the mental problems she ended up with, maybe she wouldn't have felt something was wrong with her body if she wasn't taught the lie that a person can be "in the wrong body" to begin with. At the very least if her doctors didn't kowtow to gender ideology and actually helped her instead of enabling her own self-destruction she may not have killed herself.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There are at least 6 common mental disorders, and numerous ways to piss off a kid. If I were to say a kid's interest in Barbie dolls caused her suicide because she had Anorexia nervosa or just because she thought she was fat, I'd be wrong, just as wrong if I assumed a kid killed herself because she didn't like not being a boy. It's normally impossible to claim that a person killed her/himself because of ONE problem. The girl you mention required psychological treatment. It's that simple. Her lack of ability to get well is what caused her suicide.