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    [–]ughthisplace 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    lol... yeah "delusional" does sound pretty harsh. But it's also correct

    delusional is defined as: holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

    I would say that "delusional" only applies to people who think they are actually a different sex/ can change their sex.

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      [–]piylot 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I agree with you. I think there's a commonplace view in some radfem/GC spaces that is ideologically sound in theory but doesn't actually provide any practical or compassionate solution as to how we consider and facilitate the people who do choose to take cross-sex hormones and pass as the opposite sex. The idea is they shouldn't, but can't ever rule out that for an individual it may be beneficial to their life to do so, and often doesn't offer any compassion if they do.

      Again, not relevant to the question re: dating. I wouldn't date a trans man as the male characteristics would be unattractive to me and also I wouldn't want my attraction to the female body to be stifled by a partner who didn't want their body to be regarded as female. Just thought I'd reply to note their are members here who are upvoting you, and even if most people here don't agree there are people along side them that you. We're not as much of a hivemind on here as it may look at first glances.

      [–]MannyMandrake 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      confession: I upvoted because I felt sorry... 😖

      I don't actually think there's a problem with the way GC/radfem groups view people with gender dysphoria. They see them the way you'd view a person with any other delusion. For example, people who think they are an animal or a different race, age, etc. They don't entertain the belief at all. And that's fair, since it's illogical.

      Their goal has always been abolishing sex roles, not sex. TRA and trans ideology is definitely a step backwards when it comes to accomplishing that. Whenever I see someone talking about why they transitioned, it's always "because I do this stereotype" or "because I like that stereotype" or they say "I feel like a woman/man" which is, of course, impossible as those are not feelings. What they mean is "I feel feminine/masculine" and the goal should be allowing men to be feminine and women to be masculine instead of pretending that they were born in the wrong body and enabling this mess.