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[–]Lessom 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

I was agreeing with you until the sexual abuse part. I feel fortunate to have have not gone through such traumatic experience but would never shit on other lesbians who have by doubting them because of this. The fact of the matter is that sadly many girls and women regardless of their sexuality have been attacked by men.

[–]CuntWorshiper[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

The fact of the matter is that sadly many girls and women regardless of their sexuality have been attacked by men.

Yes. That’s true. It could happen of a lesbian get raped and in this case the rape has nothing to do with her sexual orientation but I’m not talking of this. I’m talking of women who “decide to become a lesbian” because they were sexually abused, or because mEn SuKc (might not be abused but have problems with men), those women do exist. You haven’t really looked around on internet you haven’t seen them yet, they are on anything “lesbian”. While I feel sorry for anyone who have been sexually abused, including them, I won’t stop see them as what they are and do to lesbians when talking of lesbian stuff. They appropriate lesbianism for political reasons and they feed lesbophobic bs and that’s not the only bad part, imagine you’re in a relationship with a woman and then find out that she isn’t doesn’t even genuinely like women, you’re just a cope tool for her to have a false sense of control!? They are political lesbians, political lesbians are bad for lesbians.

Being a rape victim can’t keep one from criticism when criticism fit. Understanding someone’s behavior originates from deep trauma don’t absolves them from their responsibilities nor necessitates our absolute silence tolerance.

Also, why don’t they just stop putting themselves in relationships with men? If they don’t want to be in relationships with men, or have anything to do with men because of trauma. They don’t need to be “lesbians” for that, as far as I know, hetero/bi women have the right not to fuck men as much as lesbians do.

But my annoyance is more than just what sexually abused political lesbians. My annoyance is that everyone non lesbian feel entitled to lesbianism despite the requirements for ‘lesbian’ being so simple. My annoyance is that, even in so called “lesbian spaces” I have to be thinking of who is actually lesbian and who is not because everyone else already went so far at turning ‘lesbian’ into political statement, hobby, fetish, moral choice, trauma cope, sexy attention magnet or whatever. It seems lesbianism is everything but female homosexuality. Lesbians are not only rare on “open world” they are also rare on “lesbian spaces”, that’s the annoying depressing thing. But of course, it’s too politically incorrect so you to ever say it out loud. See, another annoying thing, everyone is entitled to their opinion but lesbians have to think twice about what they say not to hurt transbias, not to hurt bisexuals, not to hurt men, not to hurt political lesbian.

[–]CatsOrGoHome 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My annoyance is that, even in so called “lesbian spaces” I have to be thinking of who is actually lesbian and who is not because everyone else already went so far at turning ‘lesbian’ into political statement, hobby, fetish, moral choice, trauma cope, sexy attention magnet or whatever. It seems lesbianism is everything but female homosexuality. Lesbians are not only rare on “open world” they are also rare on “lesbian spaces”, that’s the annoying depressing thing. But of course, it’s too politically incorrect so you to ever say it out loud.

This right here and the rest of what you said have summarized what I feel too. People here are assuming you are attacking rape victims when you are criticizing the fact a lot of "lesbians" just have a problem with men due to their trauma. I know this is a general internet problem, but I wish people here would get some basic reading comprehension. If you are an actual lesbian, you would immediately understand what she is trying to say.

[–]Lessom 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

'Been recently reading in this sub about how many have been sexually abused got me wondering how it must have very few actual lesbians, meaning actual homosexual women instead of ‘I have a problem with men’ women, in a already very small lesbian forum'.

To clarify further, I was responding to the above point you made in the original post. From my understanding, you read about many people here talking about being sexually abused and are doubting whether these women are actual lesbians?

Like I already said, I agree with the points you were making before this and that being a lesbian is only about being a female homosexual and not a political statement or hating the opposite sex. My point was that women being victim to sexual abuse is so common that its not hard to believe there are many genuine lesbians posting here about their trauma. Its the internet, it gives them sense of anonymity and there aren't many lesbian spaces to begin with. Sexual abuse victims or any other non lesbians that larp as lesbians is ofcourse never justifiable

It is frustrating due to the fakebians there is an environment of constant mistrust and doubt about who is or isn't a lesbian in so called lesbian spaces/real life.

[–]Wot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

My point was that women being victim to sexual abuse is so common that its not hard to believe there are many genuine lesbians posting here about their trauma

But it works both ways because it's also not hard to believe that many of these victims aren't lesbians given how prevalent sexual assault is too. Given how rare lesbianism seems to be due to how there seems to be many more liars than actual homosexual women I get it. If we were in just small number then people would have a harder time denying lesbianism is real in and of itself but because so many are lying (or lesbophobes) then they have a leg to stand on. That's how bad it is. Hell, if these hurt women whom are just co-opters were so small in number they wouldn't have been able to make it an political movement out of it and paint it as a morally correct choice for women's liberation - as a means to our literal freedom. When I revealed myself to be a misandrist, lesbians here made it seem like I was actually bisexual for the same sentiment. They said lesbians don't hate men, they're just indifferent and to hate men is sus af. So, I'm surprised so many here are pretending not to get it.

[–]ShotsFired 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You can be a misandrist. But if you talk about nothing but men men men 24/7 you can't blame other lesbians for thinking you are just a political lesbian.

[–]RedditHatesLesbians 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The reason why I tend to be skitty around misandrist lesbians is because hatred is such a strong emotion, it gives men way too much emotional and mental real estate. I'd rather be with a woman who's completely apathetic towards men because discussion of men in almost any context bores me. I don't care if it's talking about how much they suck, they're irrelevant in a lesbian relationship and I'd like to bask in that freedom

[–]Wot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'd rather be with a woman who's completely apathetic towards men because discussion of men in almost any context bores me

I respect this but it'd make more sense if we lived on a planet away from men and their power and violence and the adverse living conditions so many are forced into living, including our friends and families but we don't. If you have the privilege for that to be a non-factor than good for you but I wish this was recognized as a privilege.

[–]Golly 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Feels great to be privileged 😎

[–]Wot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, go you

[–]Dudukolo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Agreed with this.

That's so strange. Why do they think lesbians can't be misandrist and must be indifferent or neutral to males?

[–]just_lesbian_things 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think it's the level of hate/dislike. I don't like alcohol because I think it tastes bad. That dislike is different from someone who hates alcohol because they had a long battle with alcoholism and feel that alcohol ruined their life. For the most part, extreme misandry is of the spurned lover/fury the likes of which hell hath no type, and those tend to come from bihet women.

[–]piylot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's true in that context, but what about people who hate someone who was cruel to them? They don't have to have previously loved them to feel hatred. You could hate a political figure, someone who robbed you, a teacher who treated you unfairly etc, doesn't mean you're secretly in love with them. A woman could have all sorts of non-romantic experiences with men that could leave a sense of hatred towards them, I don't doubt it personally.

[–]oofreesouloo 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Preaaaaaaaaaaaach !!!